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To: antidisestablishment
If you continue to vote for RINOs, you will get more. This election will have absolutely no effect on Obama, regardless of how many RINOs you elect. It could possibly have an effect on the GOP if they realize that conservative are not going to vote for their RINOs.

Conservatives refused to vote for RINOs in five of the past six Presidential elections. All that got us was President Clinton, President Obama and damned near President Algore. How has that strategy been working out for you so far?

Do whatever you can to get the best candidates nominated that you can vote for, but when it comes time to vote all you can do is pick between the candidates that you actually have to choose from. Unless you are on the ballot, you will never have a candidate to vote for that you agree with all of the time. The best you can hope for is an opportunity to vote for a candidate that you agree with most of the time. In most cases, your choice comes down to which is the lesser of two evils. That is reality whether you like it or not.

In one month, either the Democrats will continue to control the Senate for another two years or Republicans (including a lot of RINOs) will control the Senate. Those are the only two possibilities. One of those two choices is going to occur, whether or not you refuse to pick one.

In a Republican/RINO controlled Senate, at least the conservatives have a chance of blocking some of Obama's far left wing liberal judicial appointments. In a Democrat/Harry Reid controlled Senate, then conservatives have no chance whatsoever to block anything.

If you seriously think that you are sending anyone a message by not voting then you are seriously deluding yourself. The only message that you send by refusing to vote is that you give up and the liberals win.

53 posted on 10/10/2014 1:17:05 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Your argument makes no sense. Your RINOs have approved every appointment that Obama has proposed. You are lying about the elections. Your RINO candidates playing Democrat-light gave us Clinton, Obama and damned near Gore. Bush senior lost because he was always a moderate and he ran a bad campaign after lying and raising taxes. Dole, McCain and Romney—your candidates whom we all voted for, put us where we are.

The nomination process is owned by the GOPe and they have repeatedly thrown the elections to Democrats. The Senate has done nothing conservative since Reagan, and there is no change in sight. The liberals win as long as you put party over principle. The (R) beside the deciding liberal vote only adds insult to injury.

Your lesser-of-two-evils approach has only driven the evil further and further, and has promoted an amoral cabal to lead the party and work against its founding principles and slander all who value faith, family and country.

At some point, a reasonable person has to say no to evil regardless of the “sides.” When we have republican candidates and office-holders espousing “progressive” ideas and voting for liberal initiatives time and time again, then there is no value in continuing the pretense.


56 posted on 10/10/2014 2:16:16 PM PDT by antidisestablishment
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To: Bubba_Leroy

The next presidential election is critical. We need to avoid having the conservative vote split in the primaries. But that is the election AFTER this one.

The promise of winning the senate now offers very little. Lets go over the pros and cons:

1. Maybe they might block the worst of Obama’s appointments... maybe.
2. They might pass bills to force unpopular vetos... (of course Obama is a lame duck, doesn’t care, is already unpopular and the Dems are already running away from Obama on the campaign trails)
3. McConnell “I’ll destroy the tea party” is ordained leader of the senate.

Not much there to inspire me. Lets look at the cons:

1. Every Rino is one more vote for a weak/moderate Republican leader in the senate. Ouch.
2. Every Rino is a potential “gang of 8/10/12” member which means even if we win the majority, we don’t have control.
3. Red state Rinos are harder to get rid of than a democrat.
4. Rinos will be desperate to get something passed to show they are doing something... anything. So they are likely to bend over backwards to get Obama to “compromise” on some issue that they give in on.
5. Having control of both houses gives the dem’s an out during the presidential election to run against the do-nothing legislature. If Dem’s keep the senate, then they own the state of the nation.
6. Having RINO jump ship on crucial votes lets the dem’s call that action bi-partisan and avoid accountability for the harms that they do.
7. Rinos are not going to vote against Obama appointments anyways, and are likely to vote to close filibusters. Looking at you Senator Cornball!
8. Rinos love to badmouth other Republicans and do more damage since they are perceived to be on the same side. Go go Gov Krispy Kreme.

I can keep going.


72 posted on 10/11/2014 12:55:32 PM PDT by csivils
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