Here we go again. Another Police shooting in Missouri

No one has to get up early for work???

Justice for Saint Skittles mit Blunts of St Louis. Lay down and let thugs kill you for justice.

>> The point of this reply is to point out that whites are the most likely to die while being arrested.

If I’m reading the chart correctly, the black/white kill ratio does not reflect the population ratio which I think is relevant.

I’m not attempting to give you a hard time, just looking for clarification.

Evidence and expert testimony don’t matter anymore.

Detroit anyone?

“St. Louis has lost 62.7% of its population since the 1950 United States Census, the highest percent of any city that had a population of 100,000 or more at the time of the 1950 Census. Detroit and Youngstown, Ohio are the only other cities to have seen population declines of at least 60% in the same time frame.” wikipedia

“The differences between this and the Michael Brown case become apparent fairly quickly as you work through the story.”
Not to the ABCBSNBCNN consortium’s reporting.

I’m at the point where I believe that law enforcement should pull out of some areas where the behavior of the locals demonstrates hostility. They don’t support law enforcement and don’t welcome it. Any situation that can be interpreted against law enforcement is interpreted against law enforcement.

Why risk your life for them?

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Someone needs to get some people in downtown Ferguson puking....maybe then they will go away

LOL!

What would really happen is they’d be all over it so they could jump on Jesse’s racial grievance gravy train

RE: "If I’m reading the chart correctly, the black/white kill ratio does not reflect the population ratio which I think is relevant. I’m not attempting to give you a hard time, just looking for clarification."

Yes I understand, I think. You mean like whites outnumber blacks? And perhaps that is key factor of more whites murdered than blacks?

That makes sense and should be considered; but in light of claims that only blacks are victims.. every black child is a Trayvon for example, these numbers say something different it seems to me.

I will defer to the experts but I find the crime figures interesting vis-a-vis claims made by the Obama-Holder demagogues and the lucrative race-grievance industry that recently announced a new product! EBOLA treatment is racist! Send your money to J. Jackson . . . .

The FBI Expanded Homicide Data should also be considered. IMO.
Table 6 data for multiple years.

FBI Homicides Statistics

Year of Stats	Race of Victims	Total	White Offenders	Black Offenders	Unknown & other
2012	White	3,128	2,614	431	83
	Black	2,648	193	2,412	43
2011	White	3,172	2,630	448	94
	Black	2,695	193	2,447	55
2010	White	3,327	2,777	447	103
	Black	2,720	218	2,459	43
2009	White	3,518	2,963	454	101
	Black	2,867	209	2,604	54
2008	White	3,643	3,036	504	103
	Black	3,024	230	2,722	72
2007	White	3,587	2,918	566	103
	Black	3,221	245	2,905	71
2006	White	3,709	3,026	573	110
	Black	3,303	208	3,034	61
2005	White	3,785	3,150	516	119
	Black	3,289	230	2,984	75
2004	White	3,727	3,123	522	85
	Black	3,067	228	2,784	55
1995	White	4,954	4,124	699	131
	Black	4,764	281	4,422	61

I did not find data for the years 1996 through 2003

www.fbi.gov About Us CJIS UCR Crime in the U.S. Here's the links to most of the FBI tables I referenced above.

choose Continue to Crime in the United States, 2009
choose Homicides
choose Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

Here's 2008

Here's 2007

choose Homicides
choose Expanded Homicide Data Tables / Table 5

Here's 2006

choose Expanded Homicide Data
choose Expanded Homicide Table 5

Here's 2005

choose Expanded Homicide Data
choose Expanded Homicide Data Table 5

There also this new FBI product to consider..
Here's links to the FBI's new reporting system, the National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS).

The two tables in this example are:

Victims, Race by Offense Category, 2012
Offenders, Race by Offense Category, 2012

Go here Data Tables or link to the two tables in Excel format here:

Victims' Race
by Offense Category, 2012

Offenders' Race
by Offense Category, 2012

I have included the two tables below with by addition of four columns on one of them.

I note that

there are more black offenders than black victims
there are fewer white offenders than white victims

Something is making up that difference between that gap of white offenders and white victims.

NOTE: No where does the FBI attempt to connect victim and offender by race. That is my doing below.. and it's is necessarily only a guess.

For whites the two tables show that white victims, crime category by crime category, outnumber by wide margins white offenders.

Just the opposite for blacks.

Difference between Number of white victims vs. number of white offenders	-- a negative number means whites have surplus offenders; that means there were more offenders than victims and whites are doing their share. Sadly that's only in four crime categories.
Crimes AgainstPersons	125,837
Assault Offenses	113,686
Homicide Offenses	87
Kidnapping/Abduction	1,514
Sex Offenses, Forcible	10,182
Sex Offenses, Nonforcible	368
Crimes Against Property	1,081,842
Arson	2,020
Bribery	-101
Burglary/Breaking & Entering	267,223
Counterfeiting/Forgery	-10,326
Destruction/Damage/Vandalism	275,064
Embezzlement	-9,495
Extortion/Blackmail	245
Fraud Offenses	71,355
Larceny/Theft Offenses	404,894
Motor Vehicle Theft	69,257
Robbery	21,474
Stolen Property Offenses	-9,768

Difference between Number of black victims vs. number of black offenders	-- a negative number means blacks have surplus offenders available to help the lazy whites.
Crimes AgainstPersons	-78,657
Assault Offenses	-71,120
Homicide Offenses	-292
Kidnapping/Abduction	-1,831
Sex Offenses, Forcible	-5,176
Sex Offenses, Nonforcible	-238
Crimes Against Property	-45,491
Arson	582
Bribery	-59
Burglary/Breaking & Entering	38,253
Counterfeiting/Forgery	-12,510
Destruction/Damage/Vandalism	31,950
Embezzlement	-4,517
Extortion/Blackmail	-95
Fraud Offenses	-2,945
Larceny/Theft Offenses	-67,316
Motor Vehicle Theft	21,375
Robbery	-40,901
Stolen Property Offenses	-9,308

And the NIBRS tables show "Unknown Race" had 5,759 offenders in that crime category (Sex Offenses, Forcible).

Here are the two tables with the above columns (plus 2 more) that I ADDED to the second table -- the columns ARE NOT FBI. The columns are my doing.

Victims' Race
by Offense Category, 2012

Offense Category	"Total Victims¹"	White	Black	"American Indian or Alaskan Native"	"Asian/Pacific Islander"	"Unknown Race"
Total	4,332,695	3,156,006	901,159	22,326	50,615	202,589
Crimes Against Persons	1,327,863	893,984	374,220	11,133	10,072	38,454
Assault Offenses	1,228,498	820,215	354,624	10,126	9,274	34,259
Homicide Offenses	3,943	1,885	1,940	22	34	62
Kidnapping/Abduction	15,797	10,946	4,059	162	181	449
Sex Offenses, Forcible	73,132	55,876	12,569	743	546	3,398
Sex Offenses, Nonforcible	6,493	5,062	1,028	80	37	286
Crimes Against Property	3,004,832	2,262,022	526,939	11,193	40,543	164,135
Arson	12,300	7,816	2,706	48	109	1,621
Bribery	250	197	35	3	2	13
Burglary/Breaking & Entering	538,561	402,371	106,177	1,776	7,124	21,113
Counterfeiting/Forgery	39,203	30,973	4,335	166	509	3,220
Destruction/Damage/Vandalism	660,184	485,374	129,772	2,791	8,657	33,590
Embezzlement	3,654	3,053	364	11	38	188
Extortion/Blackmail	1,207	902	221	3	28	53
Fraud Offenses	216,429	163,449	34,812	530	3,010	14,628
Larceny/Theft Offenses	1,262,354	992,072	177,229	4,752	16,507	71,794
Motor Vehicle Theft	159,295	106,661	39,588	621	2,057	10,368
Robbery	81,554	47,647	29,138	396	2,155	2,218
Stolen Property Offenses	29,841	21,507	2,562	96	347	5,329

¹ This table includes only individual (person) victims and does not include business, financial institution, government, religious organization, or other victims. Victims are counted once for each offense type to which they are connected.

Offenders' Race
by Offense Category, 2012

Offense Category	"Total Victims¹"	White	Black	"American Indian or Alaskan Native"	"Asian/ Pacific Islander"	"Unknown Race"	Number of white victims vs. number of white offenders	Number of black victims vs. number of black offenders
Total	4,556,183	2,574,105	1,261,337	39,967	29,895	650,879
Crimes Against Persons	1,297,153	768,147	452,877	12,905	9,718	53,506	125,837	-78,657	1.16	0.83
Assault Offenses	1,199,433	706,529	425,744	11,963	8,899	46,298	113,686	-71,120	1.16	0.83
Homicide Offenses	4,465	1,798	2,232	29	27	379	87	-292	1.05	0.87
Kidnapping/Abduction	16,328	9,432	5,890	178	150	678	1,514	-1,831	1.16	0.69
Sex Offenses, Forcible	70,441	45,694	17,745	650	593	5,759	10,182	-5,176	1.22	0.71
Sex Offenses, Nonforcible	6,486	4,694	1,266	85	49	392	368	-238	1.08	0.81
Crimes Against Property	2,361,079	1,180,180	572,430	18,083	13,504	576,882	1,081,842	-45,491	1.92	0.92
Arson	10,827	5,796	2,124	71	45	2,791	2,020	582	1.35	1.27
Bribery	412	298	94	5	4	11	-101	-59	0.66	0.37
Burglary/Breaking & Entering	316,477	135,148	67,924	1,615	1,188	110,602	267,223	38,253	2.98	1.56
Counterfeiting/Forgery	68,197	41,299	16,845	317	488	9,248	-10,326	-12,510	0.75	0.26
Destruction/Damage/Vandalism	434,796	210,310	97,822	3,270	2,313	121,081	275,064	31,950	2.31	1.33
Embezzlement	18,520	12,548	4,881	56	136	899	-9,495	-4,517	0.24	0.07
Extortion/Blackmail	1,180	657	316	2	22	183	245	-95	1.37	0.70
Fraud Offenses	173,359	92,094	37,757	903	1,178	41,427	71,355	-2,945	1.77	0.92
Larceny/Theft Offenses	1,100,592	587,178	244,545	10,043	6,837	251,989	404,894	-67,316	1.69	0.72
Motor Vehicle Theft	85,909	37,404	18,213	858	450	28,984	69,257	21,375	2.85	2.17
Robbery	105,005	26,173	70,039	483	468	7,842	21,474	-40,901	1.82	0.42
Stolen Property Offenses	45,805	31,275	11,870	460	375	1,825	-9,768	-9,308	0.69	0.22
Crimes Against Society	897,951	625,778	236,030	8,979	6,673	20,491	-625,778	-236,030
Drug/Narcotic Offenses	790,828	566,888	194,224	8,351	5,453	15,912	-566,888	-194,224
Gambling Offenses	2,320	873	1,230	11	113	93	-873	-1,230
Pornography/Obscene Material	5,962	4,691	659	24	36	552	-4,691	-659
Prostitution Offenses	12,182	7,248	4,199	52	373	310	-7,248	-4,199
Weapon Law Violations	86,659	46,078	35,718	541	698	3,624	-46,078	-35,718

¹Does not include 1,741,162 incidents with Unknown Offenders. Offenders are counted once for each offense type to which they are connected.