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Why did the US help the Kurds in Iraq but leave Isis to massacre them in Syria?
The Guardian ^ | 10/08/14 | Cale Salih

Posted on 10/08/2014 6:00:51 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper

Observing fighters for the Islamic State (Isis) march closer and closer toward the key Syrian town of Kobani over the past week has felt like watching a bitterly suspenseful action movie unfold. Unlike other central Syrian towns that have been pounded to the ground mostly out of sight, Kobani’s looming collapse sits in full view of anyone paying attention – journalists, refugees and Turkish military tanks planted over the border, just a couple of miles away. That very border, carelessly drawn a century ago, now determines life or death for the thousands of people on either side. Every day, Isis marches closer to the heart of Kobani, and every day, Kurds across the region grow more exasperated that everyone seems to know what scene comes next – “a terrible slaughter”, with “5,000 dead within 24 or 36 hours”.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Syria
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; isis; kobane; kobani; kurdistan; lebanon; obama; syria; turkey
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Outstanding commentary. Accurately asks the most important question, Why?
1 posted on 10/08/2014 6:00:51 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper
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To: winoneforthegipper
Why?


2 posted on 10/08/2014 6:03:04 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Because we have a CIC with NO plan and NO understanding of leadership!

That has been clear for a long time now.


3 posted on 10/08/2014 6:03:56 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: winoneforthegipper
Because we have put people who act like drunk teenagers in charge of our country.

They have no plan, only impulse.
They have no strategy, only tasks.
They have no goals beyond the next election.
They have no guilt over their actions, because they are always right.

4 posted on 10/08/2014 6:06:35 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Ssssshhhhh, it’s a strategy — It’s called leading from behind.

If you were smarter, you would understand it. But because you are a pompous, arrogant, American wind bag and you have NOT sat through any of obamalamadingdongs classes you just aren’t capable of understanding.


5 posted on 10/08/2014 6:10:00 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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“a terrible slaughter”, with “5,000 dead within 24 or 36 hours”

Another Obama legacy. The history book for these years will be interesting. And Turkey, I hope ISIS overthrows your sorry *ss.

6 posted on 10/08/2014 6:11:01 AM PDT by McGruff (we're leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq - Barack Obama)
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Why did the US help the Kurds in Iraq but leave Isis to massacre them in Syria?

Obama.

Next question.

7 posted on 10/08/2014 6:12:22 AM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Just like we support Kurds in Northern Iraq and not so much in Turkey.


8 posted on 10/08/2014 6:14:51 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Obama: Is there a golf course in Kobani?

Aide: No

Obama: FORE!


9 posted on 10/08/2014 6:16:59 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: McGruff

Yeah Turkey is taking a hit worldwide on this and they have not budged..heck they even cut off a well worn path of retreat for the Kurds.

If ISIS does indeed take Kobani....it will forever change not only NATO but indeed the world.

And Obama’s thinking heads this morning said they agree Kobani will be lost but Obama is not concerned.


10 posted on 10/08/2014 6:17:19 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Because 0bola respects the territorial borders of all nations – except for the United States ....


11 posted on 10/08/2014 6:19:15 AM PDT by mikrofon (Humpday BUMPty)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Chris Plante just said military leaders are leaking info because this is so bad. WaPoo hammering Obama, too.


12 posted on 10/08/2014 6:21:30 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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Yeah reporters in the area are mortified...don’t see that to often coming out of a mainly socialistic enterprise.


13 posted on 10/08/2014 6:25:36 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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I don’t know about the American attitude toward the different populations of Kurds but the Turks distinguish between the Communist Kurds and the rest. The Communist Kurds have been the most troublesome to the Turks over the years. The Kurds in Kobani are the Communist group. The Kurds in Iraq are a mixture but the nonCommunists are the majority and run the government in Kurdistan.


14 posted on 10/08/2014 6:38:42 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: winoneforthegipper

Obama has no legal basis for intervention on Syrian soil.
His puppeteers made up the “Khorasan Group” thing as an excuse for attacking some Islamists (using legal authority for War on Terror from 2002).

Obama is painfully solicitous about legality when it comes to defense overseas, in inverse proportion to his habit of ignoring and bending the law domestically. One of the Benghazi excuses was that we had no agreement with Libya to enter their territory militarily. (As if a phone call to Libya’s premier wouldn’t have fixed that in an emergency).

If the President is actually interested in legalities, why hasn’t he pursued Congressional, NATO, and UN authorization?
Obama refuses to lead deliberately, because he thinks that will force others to do the right thing while deflating US hegemonism. Unfortunately, most countries of the world are highly resistant to risky altruistic adventures and will act, if at all, to pursue ulterior motives and interests. Result: evil triumphs.


15 posted on 10/08/2014 6:44:02 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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Oh don’t get me wrong...I am not a Kurd believer. Over these last few months just following their upper echelon on twitter has been eye opening. I don’t think I have ever seen a group more prone to pretending and fabrication as they but the fact remains....Our strategy was not build on this difference but out of deference.


16 posted on 10/08/2014 6:44:32 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Because is being led by a foolish child who is in way over his head. Not since Caligula and Nero has so much power been wielded so incompetently.


17 posted on 10/08/2014 6:46:37 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: winoneforthegipper

Obammy is a mooselimb and a fag


18 posted on 10/08/2014 6:46:43 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Obammy lied and lied and lied.)
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To: dead

The President of the United States is Moslem and supports the ISIS effort. He allowed the pinprick airstrikes because it became politically impossible to not do them. I fully believe the air strikes were started by the military without the Sultan’s approval and then he was presented with the thing by the joint chiefs, probably on that ride over to the White House, and told he needed to own the strikes, that would be politically extremely damaging to stop them and to disown them. That would explain the odd reactions of the Sultan.


19 posted on 10/08/2014 6:47:15 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Joe Boucher

...and an enemy islamist.


20 posted on 10/08/2014 7:49:55 AM PDT by onedoug
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