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The terrible truth about cannabis: British expert's devastating 20-year study
dailymail ^ | 7 October 2014 | Ben Spencer

Posted on 10/06/2014 11:55:53 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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To: GailA
Do you mean that you demand that the government respect your liberty to make that choice? If so, do you demand that the government respect the liberty of pot smokers to make their choice?


41 posted on 10/07/2014 3:57:30 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

You mean inhaling poisonous smoke isn’t good for you?

Duuuuude.


42 posted on 10/07/2014 4:02:00 AM PDT by lurk
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To: nathanbedford

I’m trying to point out the hypocrisy of drug laws that strictly control certain drugs for public safety, yet allow nicotine and alcohol to be readily available (to adults) while they are addictive and have a large body count too.

My comment about congress is speculation as to why nicotine and alcohol are not controlled like opiods, cocaine, ect.

Aren’t all of the above addictive and kill a large number of those who excessively use them?


43 posted on 10/07/2014 4:07:28 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Born to Conserve
"I used to smoke pot — back in that decade between the sixties and the eighties. Pot is not addictive, but it is a complete waste of life if too much is smoked. These days, if you are smoking pot, you are probably slumming with trash, and not achieving what you might. It is a bad habit. But it is not addictive."

Pot back then was a totally different animal. Have you ever watched someone die from COPD? I wouldn't wish that on anyone and the modern, genetically modified pot sold today deposits 5x the amount of tar in the lungs.

44 posted on 10/07/2014 4:10:07 AM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: MikeSteelBe
I was confused because, in effect, Congress did ban alcohol during prohibition, at least the sale and transportation of it. That ban did not succeed, the harm caused by Prohibition exceeded the harm caused by the ingestion of alcohol, at least in the view of the majority of the country which repealed it.


45 posted on 10/07/2014 4:13:30 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

My best friend’s 17 year old smokes pot. Boldly and proudly. Rehab is coming for him soon.

I was astounded when he dared to argue with me about it, saying pot was actually good for people. He then admonished me for having a glass of wine, saying I would die from alcohol long before he would die from smoking pot. When I pointed out that I was of legal age, imbibing a legal substance while he, as a minor, was consuming an illegal substance, he dug in further and started quoting from made up studies on how beneficial pot is.

We, as a country are so screwed.


46 posted on 10/07/2014 4:26:10 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: libbylu
Pot damages sperm and has been identified as a possible teratogen or mutagen. The only true thing is that there is no free lunch.

Getting high comes at a cost. How you want to assess that cost is up to the individual, but it also affects society in lost production and reduced initiative. Given that teens are the heaviest users, that cost can have long term effects that are not trivial. Both sides of the debate are propagandists, so the middle ground is hard to find. Personally, I believe that the WOD has caused more damage to our country than pot use, but unfortunately, I don't see legalization significantly affecting the cancerous growth of Federal powers.

Sorry to burst the Libertarian pipe dream, but the more likely result will be drugging the masses into more insidious state dependence as has been shown in the European programs...

47 posted on 10/07/2014 4:45:46 AM PDT by antidisestablishment
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Twenty years to come up with the same crap Reefer Madness tried to pass off as science? This is the anti-gun logic; because something used irresponsibly can cause harm, let's ban it's possession and use for everyone. Yes, 16 year-olds shouldn't smoke dope. They shouldn't drink whiskey either. Obligatory disclaimer: the strongest drug I use is coffee. No dope, no alcohol, no nicotine.
48 posted on 10/07/2014 4:48:35 AM PDT by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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but, but, but, but... duuuuuddeee.. legalize it man, tax it man, pot is like love, and love is like legal and stuff.. wait, wha? oh.. pot is pure man...


49 posted on 10/07/2014 4:55:07 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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50 posted on 10/07/2014 4:58:29 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I have no more faith in this study than I do the Michael Mann hockey stick global warming graph.

From personal experience, I KNOW marijuana is NOT addictive.

From personal experience, I KNOW that marijuana will actually sober up a drunk, stop the double vision, end the urge to vomit, slow a drunken driver down, & improve the ability to drive home after a party.

Teenagers should not be using ANY kind of drugs, alcohol included. Tell that to the educators, doctors, & bureaucrats who rush to medicate kids with so-called behavioral problems.

If you want you kids to reject drugs & alcohol, YOU (parents & family) must be the example by totally rejecting them yourself. Monkey see, monkey do.

The study author is a United Nations paid LIAR, just like everyone else at the UN.

51 posted on 10/07/2014 5:41:47 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: fr_freak

Well said.

I frequently ask the question of the drug warriors here, “Does the government have the right to tell you what you may or may not consume?”

I have yet to get any answer from them.


52 posted on 10/07/2014 5:47:37 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Just from first-hand observation during 24yrs of law enforcement experience. Pot smokers quickly descend into the habit of: smoking weed becomes all they want to do, all day long, munch junkfood, knod off and start smoking again as soon as they awake. Not much of a life.


53 posted on 10/07/2014 5:50:19 AM PDT by Patriot365
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To: Mister Da

I frequently ask the question of the drug warriors here, “Does the government have the right to tell you what you may or may not consume?”

“Right”, no. Does it have the authority and power, Yes, because our democratic system has given it to the gov’t.


54 posted on 10/07/2014 5:50:38 AM PDT by wrench
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

You really are incredibly ignorant on the subject, aren’t you?


55 posted on 10/07/2014 5:51:02 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Mister Da
Does the government have the right to tell you what you may or may not consume?

No, especially not the federal government. But there's this thing called "controlled substances"...and "possession".

56 posted on 10/07/2014 5:52:01 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Sir, that is the classic Circular Argument: No, they don’t have the right, but they gave themselves the right, so, yeah, they do.

When they outlaw eating meat, will you meekly become a vegetarian?


57 posted on 10/07/2014 5:57:57 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Mister Da

Wait a minute, I answered “no”. What are ya, high?


58 posted on 10/07/2014 6:02:36 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Mister Da

“From personal experience, I KNOW marijuana is NOT addictive.”

I could make the same statement about alcohol, but it would be equally false. Addiction is a complex process and not everyone is similarly vulnerable to the risk. I enjoy consuming alcohol in moderation, but I have family members and acquaintances who simply cannot consume alcohol in moderation. They have no internal “regulator” or feedback mechanism that controls their use. The same is true for people who smoke marijuana. Most are casual users who lead normal lives at work and home. However, some are caught in a downward spiral of dependency and despair.

BTW, I favor legalization and controlled distribution of marijuana among adults. But I am not blind to the social, behavioral, and medical dangers it poses to some heavy users.


59 posted on 10/07/2014 6:04:17 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: wrench

The US Constitution enumerates the powers vested to the Federal government. ALL other powers are vested in the states & people.

Where in our Constitution is the slightest implication that the Federal government may regulate what the people may consume?


60 posted on 10/07/2014 6:05:20 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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