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To: libbylu
A doc on Cavuto’s show today said if one stepped in Duncan’s vomit they would get ebola. Also, Duncan contaminants could be all over the house and a kid touching it. I read the article, reporter, who was told while in whatever country not to touch anyone, not to touch anything. They had bleach solution set up outside all buildings to wash before entering.

I do not buy the government’s crap on this.

*If* they were to step in the vomit with bare feet, and *if* the vomit contained traces of blood, then they could get Ebola by stepping in it.

Ebola typically is spread by direct physical contact. Most people who get Ebola either were at a funeral of an Ebola victim (funerals in Africa involve physically touching the corpse) or were caretakers of someone who got sick. In past outbreaks, kids living in houses of Ebola victims, who never had physical contact with the victims, did not get Ebola. If those kids have not had physical contact with the victim, they probably won't get Ebola.

I would hope the public health officials either bleached the apartment themselves, or instructed the inhabitants on bleaching it.

I believe what the government has to say, because I know that the government officials are reading the same scientific papers that I have been reading. And those papers are written by the people who have first hand experience with Ebola, either in a research lab, or in the field during an outbreak.

75 posted on 10/02/2014 6:17:22 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

No, the I am not typically antigovernment but they have screwed this up. How the heck do you think doctors in full ebola gear get ebola?
I won’t post anymore to you about this but you need to up your research and think in common sense terms. CDC website on ebola easy to find - here is your link. And when it says not spread by water I don’t think they mean ebola vomit mixed with water.
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/


85 posted on 10/02/2014 6:24:47 PM PDT by libbylu
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To: exDemMom
....”Ebola ‘typically’ is spread by direct physical contact”....

But I think what is concerning for many is that “untypical” case where it was spread otherwise. People listening to the authorities and reports see that there are no “absolutes” with Ebola, except the potential to die, and that pretty quickly,..... so without those, and until there is, people are going to be suspicious of what they're being told.

I don't know what the solution for this is as for communicating to the public that will keep the calm needed to contain this beast.......but neither the CDC nor the Gov. (especially this administration!), are really giving evidence they should be believed....this thread and photos are an example.

88 posted on 10/02/2014 6:29:16 PM PDT by caww
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To: exDemMom
the same scientific papers that I have been reading

Assessment of the Risk of Ebola Virus Transmission from Bodily Fluids and Fomites

"....the shedding of EBOV in saliva corresponded almost exactly to the period of viremia,..."

IOW the period in which the virus enters the blood stream and migrates throughout the body.

98 posted on 10/02/2014 6:36:33 PM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: exDemMom

Ebola, like other viruses, mutates constantly, nicht wahr?


112 posted on 10/02/2014 6:58:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: exDemMom
The problem with the peer reviewed literature is that it is from the last outbreak.

As the stockbrokers say, past performance is no guarantee of future returns.

Someday, there will be more papers written about this outbreak, with a slightly different strain of Ebola, and they will change the field of peer-reviewed knowledge. Unfortunately, the lessons learned will be after the fact, unless people pay attention to what isn't working now.

While I understand your reticence to part with the peer-reviewed standard, it is much like fighting the current war using the last war's tactics. Sometimes that works, but often the outcome is not what was desired.

I work in an environment where accepted belief clashes with new data on an almost constant basis, where results depend on adapting to new information in real-time, and the differences in outcome can be significant in economic terms. A small failure can cost a million dollars or more, and thankfully, no lives hang in the balance.

The data is mounting that the accepted risk patterns and protocols are not taking some factor into account, and that is leading to unnecessary deaths, especially in the health care community.

There will be more deaths before those protocols are altered to match what the data would indicate is necessary to avoid and contain the disease.

It is easy to fall back on accepted scientific beliefs. Have the courage to recognize when those beliefs do not fit the data and you can be a better scientist. We study anomalies, after all.

151 posted on 10/02/2014 7:55:32 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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