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Ted Cruz finds a core of support among social conservatives frustrated with GOP
Washington Post ^ | September 30 at 7:58 AM | Sebastian Payne and Robert Costa

Posted on 09/30/2014 7:52:05 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: RIghtwardHo

Clinton / Bush 2016!


21 posted on 09/30/2014 8:31:23 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (When Amnesty was granted 30 years ago, they promised to close the borders and enforce the law)
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To: jpsb

I believe so too.


22 posted on 09/30/2014 8:33:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
We need to fight the battles in front of us before getting divided over hypothetical battles in the future.

First, the Republicans must retake the Senate in November. If not, then there will be no possible way to stop Obama from doing whatever he wants during the rest of his term. That will also mean that Obama will be able to pack the courts with liberal judges who will be legislating from the bench for the next 30 years.

Will a Republican controlled Senate stand up to Obama? Maybe, maybe not. There are a lot of RINOs in the Senate. All I know for a fact is that a Democrat controlled Senate will continue to allow Obama to do whatever he wants.

Keep in mind that in a Republican controlled Senate, it will only take 40 Republicans to filibuster. In a Democrat controlled Senate, there is no filibuster unless Reid wants to allow one.

After the November election, we need focus on doing whatever we can to get a conservative presidential nominee in 2016. If we can get a conservative President elected in 2016 and the Republicans can hold the Senate and the House, then we have a chance of reversing nearly everything that Obama has done.

If we get another RINO nominee in 2016, then we can fight over whether we are better off with President RINO or President Hillary. At that point, it is pretty much a question of whether you prefer to prolong the agony and stay on life support a little while longer or pull the plug.

23 posted on 09/30/2014 8:33:59 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: SoConPubbie

It’s time for all the wannabe presidents with conservative credentials to split the conservative vote. A strong conservative candidate who won’t have to fight his or her way through the circus act may have a chance of beating the Republican left.


24 posted on 09/30/2014 8:39:00 AM PDT by pallis
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To: RIghtwardHo

It could be worse than that. Jeb might get elected.


25 posted on 09/30/2014 8:42:50 AM PDT by Pelham ("This is how they do it in Mexico"- California State Motto)
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To: oldbrowser

Go Cruz!


26 posted on 09/30/2014 8:54:45 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
If we get another RINO nominee in 2016, then we can fight over whether we are better off with President RINO or President Hillary. At that point, it is pretty much a question of whether you prefer to prolong the agony and stay on life support a little while longer or pull the plug.

My favorite analogy:

You are in a car at 70 mph going all "Thelma and Louise" toward the cliff and certain death. (Obama/Hillary)

Or you are in a car doing a slow and steady 25 mph. But you are still headed towards that same Grand Canyon. (RINO/Libertarian)

Which car would you rather be in?

27 posted on 09/30/2014 8:56:51 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: SoConPubbie

I want Cruz as the nominee. I just hope we won’t repeat people falling in love with fringe candidates and when they drop out, swear they won’t vote for Cruz or any other real conservative candidates.


28 posted on 09/30/2014 8:57:44 AM PDT by Moonmad27 ("I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbit)
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To: DoughtyOne
Social Conservatives... are also fiscal conservatives.

So, the people who are causing the disjoint in the Republican Party are the Fiscal-only "conservatives" who think that kicking out anyone who supports pro-life issues will help their cause.

Truth is our Founders did not separate the two and neither should we.

29 posted on 09/30/2014 9:01:10 AM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: SoConPubbie

The GOPe seems to be in “if you can’t beat him, join him” mode. They’ll try to co-opt him as Jebs “extreme right wing” competition. Ya know, make Jeb look more reeeeeeasonable.


30 posted on 09/30/2014 9:03:33 AM PDT by uncitizen (Buckle up! We're on the Facism Fast Track!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Waiting patiently for Senator Cruz to declare. I’ll be all in.


31 posted on 09/30/2014 9:04:19 AM PDT by juggernaut
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To: SoConPubbie

They want me to support a Repub who favors abortion, gay marriage, and open borders.

Thanks, no, its Cruz or nobody. If Jeb and Christie are the best they can do, I have to get my personal affairs in order.

I can easily see myself not voting this time out, for the first time in my adult life.


32 posted on 09/30/2014 9:24:28 AM PDT by marron
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To: juggernaut
Waiting patiently for Senator Cruz to declare. I’ll be all in.

Ditto.

But there will of course be some Freepers who will refuse to support Cruz because they do not believe that he is a "natural born Citizen" under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution.

33 posted on 09/30/2014 9:24:41 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Slyfox

Is it possible to be a ‘fiscal only’ Conservative?


34 posted on 09/30/2014 9:27:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Wasn’t Cruz born in Canada? Doesn’t that make him ineligible? At least according to some?


35 posted on 09/30/2014 9:36:05 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: marron

Nobody?? What about Palin?


36 posted on 09/30/2014 9:38:53 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: DoughtyOne
Is it possible to be a ‘fiscal only’ Conservative?

Even if it were, why would fiscal conservatives support the GOP establishment? Debt ceiling increases, more continuing resolutions, refusal to use the purse strings as an advantage, funding Obamacare, more government waste. Fiscal conservatives have no home in the GOP either.

37 posted on 09/30/2014 9:45:33 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: DoughtyOne
Is it possible to be a ‘fiscal only’ Conservative?

Our Founders wrote about the following:

Life - which is human life and includes family and social issues.

Liberty - which one of the contexts of what our Founders meant was the freedom to ply an honest trade in order to support the family.

Pursuit of Happiness - is the ability to pursue the end for which God created you which is within a virtuous context.

Now, these are the fundamentals given to us by God and recognized by our Founders and stipulated as the foundation of all our liberty.

They cannot be separated without harming our freedom in general.

When a "fiscal-only" conservative works to kick out a "social" conservative, he is only serving the people who want to destroy our God-given liberty.

They become the devil's tool by working to divide and conquer.

Life and Liberty, or social and fiscal, cannot be separated without harming the entire structure of freedom.

38 posted on 09/30/2014 9:50:48 AM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Is it possible to be a ‘fiscal only’ Conservative?

Yes, in the Federal arena, at least.
You see, if the federal government were to stick to the Constitution there'd only be like five or six federal agencies (Army, Navy, Post Office, State dept., Dept. of Transportation, and the IRS.)

Virtually all the social issues are properly the purview of the States under the 9th and 10th Amendments.

39 posted on 09/30/2014 9:55:45 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

If Hillary gets in and she replaces any one of the justices between Kennedy on the left and Scalia on the right, the social conservative movement goes onto life support at best.

Any law that local/state conservatives pass will be challenged, and the libs’ robed thugs on the bench will “take care of it.”


40 posted on 09/30/2014 10:11:52 AM PDT by MarkRegal05
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