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After Oklahoma Beheading and ISIS Threats, Arkansas Firing Range Becomes First To Exclude Muslims
Bearing Arms ^ | Sept 29, 2014 | Bob Owens

Posted on 09/30/2014 5:22:58 AM PDT by BulletBobCo

In an act that will no doubt result in lawsuits, The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range in Hot Springs, Arkansas, has declared itself a “Muslim free zone” due to concerns over domestic Islamic terrorism. The ban was announced yesterday by range owner Jan Morgan in an article posted to her web site where she cites ten points justifying her position.


Jan Morgan, owner of The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range, has declared her facility a “Muslim free zone.”

Among the points cited are prior attacks in the United States that the federal government refuses to classify as terrorism, including the Fort Hood attack, the Boston Marathon bombing, and the last week’s Oklahoma City beheading. Morgan has also received death threats in the past for her writing about Islam.

Another incident that weighed heavily in Morgan’s decision was an incident at her firing range several weeks ago, which she relayed to Bearing Arms this morning.

Morgan claims that two Muslim men who spoke only broken English came to her range and requested to rent semi-automatic firearms and ammunition. One of them could not produce any identification showing that he was in the country legally, and the other had a California driver’s license. Neither had any apparent firearms training. She allowed them to rent one firearm, and stood behind them the entire time they were on the range, her hand on or near her holstered Glock 19. All other patrons voluntarily vacated the firing line while they were shooting.

She brings up a very valid point that gun stores and ranges have both a legal and moral obligation to ensure the safety of their patrons. Because of this, they may refuse service to anyone they deem to be under the influence, mentally unstable, or otherwise a potential threat to themselves, or others. FFLs are afforded a great deal of latitude in this regard, as the federal government would rather err on the side of caution.

While FFls and range operators have a great deal of latitude in their business dealings, it is doubtful that a blanket ban based upon religion is remotely viable on First Amendment grounds. This is no more legally viable than a ban on Baptists or Catholics.

Morgan expects that she will be sued over the decision for civil rights violations, and is gearing up for a court battle.

She claims that so far she has received support from all 50 states, and very little criticism.

Other Second Amendment supporters, such as Caleb Giddings of Gun Nuts Media, are strongly against Morgan’s decision:

"Here’s an important point: yes, there are terrorists. There are quite a few terrorists who are followers of this or that sect of radical Islam. Those are bad people. But the 2nd Amendment isn’t for those people, the 2nd Amendment is for Americans. All Americans. Regardless of race, religion, sex, or creed. Last time I checked, the important text of the 2nd Amendment didn’t say “the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed – unless you’re black, Muslim, or gay.”

To me, that’s what the most frustrating thing about this. Yes, it reinforces negative stereotypes about my people; yes it’s bigoted; and yes it’s likely a desperate attempt for relevance from someone that no one’s ever heard of. But most importantly, and most frustratingly it absolutely misses the point of what the 2nd Amendment, and what this entire country is all about. This is the United States of America, and while we’re not as good at the whole “freedom” thing as we used to be, we’re still the best in the world. People in this country are absolutely free to pray to whichever god they wish, and those same people are free to own and use firearms for their self-defense, recreation, hunting, or any other lawful purpose. The 2nd Amendment is a civil right the same as the 1st Amendment. What Jan Morgan is doing is denying an entire group of people, an entire group of Americans, access to a fundamental civil right, simply because she doesn’t like the god they pray to, and the holy book they read. That misses the entire point of everything America is supposed to be about."

While Morgan may have a valid concern than some Islamic terrorists may attempt to use firing ranges or gun shops to acquire weapons, it isn’t acceptable to ban an entire religion from service under our Constitution. The Constitution and Bill of Rights must apply equally to all of us, or they aren’t worth anything at all.


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To: Mechanicos

I can remember a time when a business, even a private owner business, could post —No shoes, no shirt, no service — and get away with it.

Many could also post — We have the right to refuse service to anyone.

Seems like that was on a distant planet in a universe far, far away.


41 posted on 09/30/2014 6:33:41 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: BulletBobCo

Don’t muzzies have their own terrorist training camps where they can get range time?


42 posted on 09/30/2014 7:21:12 AM PDT by Old Yeller (D.A.M.N. - Deport All Muslims Now! Starting in the White House.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Requirements for entry into the facility shall include making the sign of the cross and eating a pork tenderloin sandwich.

Being an ex-Catholic, I wouldn't do the superstitious signing of the cross, but I'd sure chow down the pork tenderloin.
43 posted on 09/30/2014 7:22:41 AM PDT by Old Yeller (D.A.M.N. - Deport All Muslims Now! Starting in the White House.)
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To: elcid1970

In 1/2 second, that Muslim terrorist firing downrange at the firing line can be firing sideways down the firing line at all others within range...

“I’m sorry, you are not safe to fire weapons on this range.”


44 posted on 09/30/2014 7:29:01 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

That’s already happened in Afghanistan on many occasions, with dead Americans as a result.

At a gun-rights site with the initials TTAG, they have gone nuts, calling those supporting the range lady “bigots” & “Islamophobes” & asserting “none of the Muslims I know are in any way like the stereotypical terrorist”, and hoping that she gets sued into oblivion like the bakery couple.

PC madness, I call it.


45 posted on 09/30/2014 7:44:15 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: BulletBobCo

In the 1800s it was illegal to sell guns and whiskey to Indians, unless THEY approved by the US Government, guns but not whiskey.


46 posted on 09/30/2014 7:49:06 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: moovova

I would concur...


47 posted on 09/30/2014 7:52:26 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (For every Allende, there is a Pinochet)
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To: BulletBobCo

She may have to do like LAKE NIXON, just outside Little Rock did back in the 1960s. Sell memberships for 50 cents to swim. If people showed up you didn’t want in, you suddenly ran out of memberships.


48 posted on 09/30/2014 7:52:41 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Fester Chugabrew

DOG AND SUDS in Conway used to have a GREAT pork tenderloin sandwich!


49 posted on 09/30/2014 7:54:33 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Yorlik803

Dogs can sense the evil in the moslem. That is why they really hate dogs.


50 posted on 09/30/2014 7:55:43 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Fester Chugabrew

LOL!


51 posted on 09/30/2014 8:13:57 AM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: lakecumberlandvet

Agreed, but she better have lotsa money to burn on the lawsuit.


52 posted on 09/30/2014 8:17:22 AM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: theDentist

Instead of announcing that muslims are not welcome simply post signs stating that management reserves the right to refuse service for any reason . While not popular it ain’t as politically incorrect as a open ban on the head hackers faith.


53 posted on 09/30/2014 8:25:16 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: BulletBobCo; et al

Ban and exclude them from grocery stores.........who KNOWS how they might adulterate the food of the infidel,,,,,,,,,,,


54 posted on 09/30/2014 8:40:30 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: Maceman

Nobody has free speech, or freedom of religion, on somebody else’s private property.
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Unless you bake wedding cakes, own a bar, run a HOA, you get the idea.......


55 posted on 09/30/2014 8:44:21 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: BulletBobCo

A nice air freshener would add to the ambiance of just about any shooting range.

56 posted on 09/30/2014 9:03:25 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I agree. This is unconstitutional.

The first Amendment begins with, Congress Shall make no law...

She cannot violate anyone's Constitutional rights.

57 posted on 09/30/2014 9:19:19 AM PDT by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: BulletBobCo

I love a beautiful woman who loves the 2nd Amendment and doesn’t like Muslims. Good for her! I hope Americans are finally waking up. As if it even needs to be said this is war. These savages are here and they’re hunting us. My wife works at our local hospital and there are Muslims who do come there as well as every other type of religions and the non-religious. The town I live in borders a community with a very sizable Orthodox Jewish population who come to my wife’s hospital for treatment and about ten miles west of me is a mosque so I’m thinking the muzzies might want to go there on a hunt... I’ve told my wife to keep pepper spray with her. I carry a large folding knife. I always have, a habit I picked up years ago working in NYC. Where I work it’s required that all the cardboard be recycled which means cutting it up or breaking it down so it all fits in the big recycle bin. I don’t use a box-cutter, again drawing on my construction background I use a sheet rock knife. Those of you who know what a sheet rock knife is know the damage it can do. It isn’t a stabbing weapon. But it can open a jugular vein or cut flesh and muscle down to the bone in a single quick and powerful motion and if you’ve ever used one or do as a tool you become accustomed to retracting the blade right back into the knife so as not to cut yourself, very important to be aware of in using any knife as a weapon. I also intend to brush up on the karate I took many years ago. There are many schools for it where I live. I would like to get a long gun permit but I think my misdemeanors of my youth would prevent owning one. Anyone know if that’s the case? I live in NJ and this is a blue state.


58 posted on 09/30/2014 9:25:49 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: BulletBobCo

The Constitution and The Bill Of Rights aren’t a suicide pact. If a business owner doesn’t want someone on their place of business they have the right to refuse service or in this case, as I understand it, membership.


59 posted on 09/30/2014 9:28:35 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: TomGuy

“I can remember a time when a business, even a private owner business, could post —No shoes, no shirt, no service — and get away with it.”

It ended just after Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

“No Shirt, No Shoes, No Dice”

Authority was still allowed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2NaHBVVYzY


60 posted on 09/30/2014 9:36:58 AM PDT by roofgoat
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