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Long Shots Loom as Spoilers in Tight November Races Across Nation [Watch the Libertarians]
New York Times ^ | 09/29/2014 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 09/29/2014 11:35:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

WASHINGTON — In an election year shaped by voter anger toward the political establishment, the outcome of an unusually large number of close Senate and governor’s races could be determined by the outsize role of third-party candidates.

The potential spoilers include a quixotic former three-term senator, a pizza delivery man and an Alaskan whose name, Fish, summons a favored native food. They represent independents, Libertarians and other parties that have suddenly become relevant — and could affect the balance of power in Congress and decide who runs the governor’s offices in several states.

“If people don’t like their choices with the Republican candidate or the Democratic candidate, then you’re going to see a spurt in third-party candidates, so they can definitely affect outcomes,” said Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas.

To mitigate the impact of Libertarian candidates in North Carolina and other states, Republicans are enlisting Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky to appeal to Libertarian-leaning voters. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce last week recorded commercials featuring Mr. Paul, which will air in closely contested states.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2014; elections; libertatians; spoilers
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1 posted on 09/29/2014 11:35:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
To mitigate the impact of Libertarian candidates in North Carolina and other states, Republicans are enlisting Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky to appeal to Libertarian-leaning voters. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce last week recorded commercials featuring Mr. Paul, which will air in closely contested states.


2 posted on 09/29/2014 11:41:11 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Libertarians put democrats into office...


3 posted on 09/29/2014 11:42:17 AM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: 12th_Monkey

Thats why, even though he’s diminished himself as a national/Presidential candidate, Rand Paul is good to have around.


4 posted on 09/29/2014 11:44:22 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: 12th_Monkey

Exactly. Three things elect Democrats:

1) Voting Democrat
2) Voting Third Party
3) Not voting.


5 posted on 09/29/2014 11:45:50 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Although I agree, particularly with #3, you also might want to add:

4) Mysteriously found ballots on recounts

6 posted on 09/29/2014 11:49:47 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: 12th_Monkey

RE: Libertarians put democrats into office.

Yep. See Virginia, November 2013.


7 posted on 09/29/2014 11:50:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Translation: The Old Grey Lady is cranking-up the reasons for a likely Dem defeat next month.


8 posted on 09/29/2014 11:50:21 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: 12th_Monkey

Yeah, libertarian spoilers rarely take any votes away from the democrat.


9 posted on 09/29/2014 11:50:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Exactly. Three things elect Democrats:

1) Voting Democrat
2) Voting Third Party
3) Not voting.

Nobody will notice that that's actually three things that don't elect Republicans.

10 posted on 09/29/2014 11:55:06 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

I have been voting since 1982. I have never missed a single election since then. I have observed the following:

1) In not one single instance was the Democrat candidate superior to the GOP candidate.

2) In not one single instance did a third party candidate have any impact other than siphoning off votes from the major party candidate.

3) In not one single instance would it have been preferable to stay at home and not vote at all.

Call me a partisan if you like, but I do believe the observations are all correct and I have never had any regrets about it.


11 posted on 09/29/2014 12:12:33 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

I have no regrets never having voted for W.


12 posted on 09/29/2014 12:22:11 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Yep. Hate to say it, but I’m torn on what to do. I know the establishment Reps are going to put up a crappy candidate and I really don’t want to vote for him/her.


13 posted on 09/29/2014 12:24:52 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

In 1984 I voted for RR over Mondale. No regrets.

In 1988 I voted for Bush Sr. over Dukakis. No regrets.

In 1992 I voted for Bush Sr. over Clinton. No regrets.

In 1996 I voted for Dole over Clinton. No regrets.

In 2000 I voted for GWB over Algore. No regrets.

In 2004 I voted for GWB over Kerry. No regrets.

In 2008 I voted for McCain over BHO. No regrets.

In 2012 I voted for MR over BHO. No regrets.


14 posted on 09/29/2014 12:26:11 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: MrB

Don’t think there is a well established left wing party that can pull votes away from Dems.


15 posted on 09/29/2014 12:26:23 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Okay, you're a partisan.

And the observation about your arguments still stands.

16 posted on 09/29/2014 12:28:52 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: 12th_Monkey

It is ALWAYS difficult to unseat entrenched incumbent politicians. Always has been always will be.

Our preferred candidates don’t always win in the primaries. But in my mind that is no excuse to....

1) Vote for Democrat.
2) Waste a vote on a third party candidate.
3) Sit at home on election day.

Both #2 and # 3 are effectively voting Democrat IMHO.


17 posted on 09/29/2014 12:30:16 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: SeekAndFind
Yeah, it's all the libertarian's fault. The GOPe has nothing whatsoever to do with it. </sarcasm>
18 posted on 09/29/2014 12:59:34 PM PDT by zeugma (The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

You speak the truth and some here will not like being exposed.


19 posted on 09/29/2014 1:01:43 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

I would say that Republicans having nothing to offer small government advocates put Democrats into office. I do not demand the perfect candidate but I refuse to vote for unpalletable ones simlply because they are “better” than the rat. I would like republicans to believe they will never win without a true small government candidate. Until then we will keep getting the McCains and Romneys of the world who will lead us to the same end as the rats, albiet more slowly.


20 posted on 09/29/2014 1:01:45 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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