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Defeating ISIS the World War One Way: Blackjack Pershing would know what to do.
The American Spectator ^ | September 26, 2014 | H. W. Crocker III

Posted on 09/28/2014 11:21:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Many people, even alleged conservatives, blame the West when it comes to explaining Islamic terrorism. If it wasn’t the crusades, it was the end of World War One, when Winston Churchill and T. E. Lawrence (of Arabia), among others, carved up the map of the modern Middle East.

But if the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the creation of modern Iraq, Syria, Jordan, and Palestine (eventually Israel) were a cause of movements like ISIS, why was the region relatively quiescent after the First World War? Indeed, Lawrence, in 1922, predicted that even among the ever restless Arabs, there would “be no more serious trouble for at least seven years,” which, in those territories for which Britain was responsible, proved broadly true. In 1935, he wrote to Robert Graves, “How well the Middle East has done: it, more than any other part of the world, has gained from the war.”

Lawrence thought that West had little to fear from Arab nationalism, because the Arabs were “even less stable than the Turks” and if “properly handled [the Arabs] would remain in a state of political mosaic, a tissue of small jealous principalities incapable of cohesion and yet always ready to combine against an outside force.”

The British were used to putting down jihadists, whether in the Sudan, or in India, or even 1920s Iraq, and did so with an eye on frugality. Crushing jihadists, it was thought (and proved), needn’t be expensive. When Lawrence noted a “Wahhabi-like Moslem form of Bolshevism” welling up in Southern Iraq, it was the RAF that dispelled it, using on-the-ground spotters like John Bagot Glubb, whose Southern Desert Camel Corps, made up of Iraqi border Arabs, later patrolled the border to keep the Wahhabist Ikhwan out....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: isis; islam; jihad; muslims; pershing
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1 posted on 09/28/2014 11:21:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama would have already fired anyone who was as competent as Pershing.


2 posted on 09/28/2014 11:25:46 PM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I have the view point that this is God's plan, and it is frivolous to play the blame game of responsibility of ISIS. Here's a thought: the inability to execute godly JUSTICE by sovereign governments is the reason, because they have rejected God.

If we have our eschatology correct, this is all leading to a final clash with Israel at center stage, in order to close out the age of the Gentiles.

What a great Saviour we have, still calling on people to repent and turn to him.

3 posted on 09/28/2014 11:31:50 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pershing wanted to win.


4 posted on 09/28/2014 11:32:06 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Took this last week at Mt. Soledad War Memorial in La Jolla.


5 posted on 09/28/2014 11:44:35 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.rathcoombe.net/blogs/blackjack.html


6 posted on 09/28/2014 11:48:23 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mustard Gas?


7 posted on 09/28/2014 11:55:54 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
'We've Got To Kill Them Like Cockroaches'
8 posted on 09/29/2014 12:23:47 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
it was the end of World War One, when Winston Churchill and T. E. Lawrence (of Arabia), among others, carved up the map of the modern Middle East.

Lawrence had no part in carving up the Middle East. He opposed it. Try Winston Churchill and Gertrude Bell.

9 posted on 09/29/2014 12:49:38 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the Muslim world, the enemy of the enemy is not necessarily your friend. Usually it applies only to Muslims against an infidel enemy. This Spectator guy does not know what he is talking about.


10 posted on 09/29/2014 2:45:59 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Our present appeasement of Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama & the Left (Dems & RINOs) are not looking for Pershings they're looking for feminization..
Click here: West Point Wants More Female Cadets

"WEST POINT, N.Y.—The U.S. Military Academy expects to welcome a record-high number of women when the incoming class reports next week."

"West Point announced Monday that of the 1,200 cadet candidates expected to arrive July 2 for Reception Day, 263 will be women, or 22 percent..."

And 22% is not enough... They WANT MORE!

That will put fear into the hearts of our enemies.

11 posted on 09/29/2014 4:24:55 AM PDT by drpix
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' Pershing buried slain jihadists with pigs so that they faced the prospect of going straight to hell (according to their Mohammedan beliefs) rather than inheriting a paradise of virgins.'

Any evidence or documents that Pershing ever did this?

12 posted on 09/29/2014 4:47:38 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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Seems a waste of a perfectly fine pig IMHO. Wouldn’t just the muck from the pig barn in the same hole be good enough?


13 posted on 09/29/2014 5:06:34 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting history. The multi-faceted, hydra-headed, asymmetric Islam is more cohesive than it has ever been. Western civilization is trending toward disarray.


14 posted on 09/29/2014 5:07:44 AM PDT by PGalt
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15 posted on 09/29/2014 5:09:46 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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Too many people today don’t realize that war is hell. And the more hell you cause for the enemy the less likely he will keep the will to fight. To win you must be willing to rain absolute destruction on the enemy and all that they hold dear. Show them that continuing to fight against us will bring catastrophic destruction to them and theirs.


16 posted on 09/29/2014 5:36:40 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Texas isn't just a state. It's a state of mind!)
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To: Theoria

From my reading the pig thing is a myth, no evidence of it actually occurring. But I will give the author a pass on it because the gist of his article on Pershing is correct. Pershing, like many other officers of his generation, understood the basics of counter insurgency warfare. The American and European militaries of the time had vast experience with successful COIN operations.


17 posted on 09/29/2014 6:24:20 AM PDT by gusty
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To: Salvavida

How simple. Then what would be anyone’s point in striving if all is pre-destined?


18 posted on 09/29/2014 7:01:40 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Rodamala

Swine.


19 posted on 09/29/2014 7:02:43 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: gusty
No, I understand. Another Col did do such a thing in the past.

Many of the commanders back then had alot experience fighting irregular forces, Indian Wars, Moro,etc. Lawton, MacArthur, Jr.

20 posted on 09/29/2014 7:25:50 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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