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Study: Allowing blood donations from gay men could help save over a million lives in U.S.
http://www.philly.com/philly/health/Study_Allowing_blood_donations_from_gay_men_could_help_save_over_a_million_lives_in_US_.html#SAJCU0dvroWreqjZ.99 ^

Posted on 09/27/2014 8:34:55 PM PDT by Phillyred

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To: goodnesswins

What’ll happen is those private groups will get the same treatment as everyone else - include homosexuals or face devistating legal troubles.

Then people really will die due to a lack of available blood or HIV infected blood in circulation. Clearly an Agenda 21 move here (depopulation).


21 posted on 09/27/2014 9:08:31 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Phillyred

How is blood from less than 3% of the population going to really save over a million lives?


22 posted on 09/27/2014 9:08:46 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: Phillyred
Lifting a ban on blood donations from gay men would increase the amount of available blood by hundreds of thousands of pints (liters) each year and save more than a million lives a year, a California study showed.

Math is hard.

In the U.S., there are 2.5 million deaths per year. Are we really to believe that 40% of U.S. deaths are attributable to blood shortages?

23 posted on 09/27/2014 9:09:21 PM PDT by SSS Two
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To: Phillyred

They just can’t kill us off fast enough, can they.


24 posted on 09/27/2014 9:17:22 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight (...staying home isn't an option.)
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To: struggle

appropriate


25 posted on 09/27/2014 9:18:15 PM PDT by kallisti (political correctness was originally cultural marxism)
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To: SSS Two

Excellent point.


26 posted on 09/27/2014 9:27:47 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Phillyred

Utter bullshit. Hysterically false.


27 posted on 09/27/2014 9:29:29 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Phillyred

Who is writing this fiction?


28 posted on 09/27/2014 9:31:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Slyfox

They are probably not talking about whole blood, but how many lives based on the amount blood products, like plasma or platelets.

I think the number is still inflated beyond reason.


29 posted on 09/27/2014 9:32:04 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Phillyred

AND the push is on to repeal all “disclosure” laws that require HIV/AIDS victims to inform their sexual partners.

AIDS Pride and all that.


30 posted on 09/27/2014 9:33:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Hey Obama: If Islamic State is not Islamic, then why did you give Osama Bin Laden a muslim funeral?)
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To: Phillyred

so a 2% increase in the blood supply will save a million lives? I had no idea that 50 million Americans bled to death.


31 posted on 09/27/2014 9:34:28 PM PDT by dangus
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To: GeronL
http://www.redcrossblood.org/donating-blood/eligibility-requirements/eligibility-criteria-topic#stds

Eligibility Criteria by Topic/Lifetstyle and Life Events

Donor Deferral for Men Who Have Had Sex With Men (MSM)

The top priorities of the American Red Cross are the safety of our volunteer blood donors and the ultimate recipients of blood. On June 11, 2010, the Department of Health and Human Services Secretary's Advisory Committee on Blood Safety and Availability voted against recommending a change to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) policy of a lifetime deferral for men who have sex with other men. The FDA is responsible for determining donor eligibility requirements and the Red Cross is required to follow their decisions. However, the Red Cross does support the use of rational, scientifically-based deferral periods that are applied fairly and consistently among donors who engage in similar risk activities. We will continue to work through the AABB (American Association of Blood Banks) to press for donor deferral policies that are fair and consistent and based on scientific evidence, while still protecting patients from potential harm.

32 posted on 09/27/2014 9:38:39 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Viennacon

“As long as nothing bad happens, everything will be good”

Some real deep thoughts by the study designers. And you know they were paid good money to make up some numbers.


33 posted on 09/27/2014 9:45:48 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Phillyred

“Study: Allowing blood donations from gay men could help save over a million lives in U.S.”

This title is deceptive. A careful reading of the text will show that it was a CALIFORNIA study.


34 posted on 09/27/2014 9:53:19 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: Phillyred

They are banned because of likely transmission of deadly disease....just like the ban for decades now if you have travelled to Africa in the past five years


35 posted on 09/27/2014 9:54:30 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Phillyred
I am a Medical Technologist as well as a frequent (every 8 weeks) blood donor. There are many other medical reasons that blood donors are temporarily or permanently deferred, most of which are to protect the recipient, but some are actually to protect the donor.

As far as HIV goes, it is an established fact that the incidence of AIDS is much higher in the gay community than in the general population so those that engage in this risky behavior should be excluded. Although blood is tested for the presence of the virus, there is a "window" after infection during which the blood test will be negative even though the person is capable of transmitting the infection through blood or blood products.

IV drug use is another high-risk category of donors that are excluded, not just because of HIV, but also Hepatitis B and C. It is typical of the gay and lesbian lobby to complain because they cannot do whatever they want to do just because of "discrimination".

36 posted on 09/27/2014 9:57:20 PM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: Jonty30
I think the number is still inflated beyond reason.

I have a brother (who is not gay) who can not give blood because he lost a finger. So, if you figure things like that and the fact of multiple same sex partners and the possibility of passing on not only AIDS but any other assortment of sexually transmitted diseases. Then the number of eligibles goes down considerably.

Here are the current FDA and /or AABB guidelines for volunteer blood donation (allogeneic and autologous) screening:

ABO, Rh Typing
Unexpected antibody screen (immunohematologic antibodies)
Hepatitis B surface antigen
Hepatitis B core antibodies
Hepatitis C antibodies
Serologic test for Syphilis
HIV-I/II antibodies
Human T-cell lymphotrophic virus antibodies
HIV-I Nucleic Acid Test (PCR)
HCV Nucleic Acid Test (PCR)
West Nile Virus Nucleic Acid Test (PCR)
Bacterial Screening of Platelet components

Additional tests may be preformed at the discretion of the collection facility, such as Cytomegalovirus (CMV) Antibody screening, Hepatitis B Nucleic Acid Testing (PCR) and T. Cruzi antibodies (Chagas' Disease).

So, multiple same sex partners mean the chance of getting clean blood is extremely low.

37 posted on 09/27/2014 10:12:24 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: Phillyred

All that extra blood isn’t going to help anyone if it isn’t safe to use.

This isn’t about bigotry or homophobia or anything else besides hard statistical data. Gay and Bisexual men in the United States have an exponentially higher rate of current HIV infections and represent a staggering percentage of new HIV infections.

From the CDC’s own website:

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/index.html

http://www.cdc.gov/std/Syphilis/STDFact-MSM-Syphilis.htm

-50% of all existing HIV/AIDS cases are gay or bisexual men.

-Gay and bisexual men account for nearly 2/3’s of all new cases of HIV each year.

-Young gay and bisexual boys and men aged 13 to 25, (which the CDC generously estimates to be 2% of the general population) account for no less than 3/4’s of the new HIV cases each year. That represents an increase of almost 60% since 2008.

-Gay and bisexual men also account for a disproportionately high percentage (75%) of new syphilis cases each year. Syphilis is still very much a killer, folks.

It’s madness to even consider using such a high risk group for blood donation. No testing method is infallible, and this would represent an undue risk to the blood supply. It doesn’t matter if it’s gay men or needle-sharing drug addicts, the risk is too damned high.

Oh, and if the ban is so discriminatory, why aren’t lesbians (who have very low HIV infection rates) banned from donating blood? Again, this is not about anything but sound and sane medicine.


38 posted on 09/27/2014 10:15:09 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo Man is always intense.)
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To: Phillyred

Damn. These people are determined that if one thing doesn’t get us, another will. Blood from sodomites, epidemics from illegals, ebola...


39 posted on 09/27/2014 10:15:09 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Phillyred

All that extra blood isn’t going to help anyone if it isn’t safe to use.

This isn’t about bigotry or homophobia or anything else besides hard statistical data. Gay and Bisexual men in the United States have an exponentially higher rate of current HIV infections and represent a staggering percentage of new HIV infections.

From the CDC’s own website:

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/index.html

http://www.cdc.gov/std/Syphilis/STDFact-MSM-Syphilis.htm

-50% of all existing HIV/AIDS cases are gay or bisexual men.

-Gay and bisexual men account for nearly 2/3’s of all new cases of HIV each year.

-Young gay and bisexual boys and men aged 13 to 25, (which the CDC generously estimates to be 2% of the general population) account for no less than 3/4’s of the new HIV cases each year. That represents an increase of almost 60% since 2008.

-Gay and bisexual men also account for a disproportionately high percentage (75%) of new syphilis cases each year. Syphilis is still very much a killer, folks.

It’s madness to even consider using such a high risk group for blood donation. No testing method is infallible, and this would represent an undue risk to the blood supply. It doesn’t matter if it’s gay men or needle-sharing drug addicts, the risk is too damned high.

Oh, and if the ban is so discriminatory, why aren’t lesbians (who have very low HIV infection rates) banned from donating blood? Again, this is not about anything but sound and sane medicine.


40 posted on 09/27/2014 10:15:12 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo Man is always intense.)
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