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By Disrespecting Its Base, GOP Risks Electoral Flop
news.investors.com ^ | 9/26/14 | Rick Manning

Posted on 09/27/2014 6:56:32 AM PDT by cotton1706

Political pollsters have a tough job. They have to create formulas to determine if the person they are interviewing is likely to vote, and it is within this calculation that their reputations are made.

Typically, those who are likely to vote in an off-year election are pretty set. They are the people who always vote in elections — with some motivated by specific issues.

In a wave election, the number of those motivated by specific issues escalates, changing the electoral landscape as the candidates who are beneficiaries of this increased participation sweep to victory.

The 2014 election is rapidly looking like something new and different. Democrats are reportedly demoralized by the failed Obama administration and general fatigue.

Republicans, in an orgy of expectations, believe the key to taking the Senate was getting "electable" candidates nominated.

And get them nominated they did.

The establishment got their candidates. Now they're looking at a potentially disastrous election where their chosen ones dramatically underperform all reasonable expectations, the result of attacking their own party's base to cement primary victories.

One state party chairman has privately bemoaned that social conservatives in his state openly question why they should bother voting at all. Given the national party's desire to kick them out of the big tent to make room for a hoped-for influx of pot smoking hipsters, who can blame them?

Across the nation, Tea Party conservatives question the wisdom of being tied to a Republican Party that wants them to just shut up and vote for whomever the establishment decides, and it is this indecision on whether to vote at all that is at the heart of the GOP's polling woes.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; uniparty
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To: cva66snipe
Poppy Bush lost that election all on his own. He let Bill Clinton run to the right of him and it worked for Clinton.

Sort of. Bush was in a bad position to begin with because of his abandoned no-new-taxes pledge and the Buchannan insurgency.

However the last week and a half before the election he was surging and had momentum pointing to victory.

But the Friday before the election Lawrence Walsh dropped those Iran-Contra indictments in what was probably the worst political dirty tricks move since Nixon, and more likely LBJ and the Kennedys. Bush's trending reversed over the weekend, and he didn't have time to recover.

I still hope that Walsh is enjoying a rather toasty afterlife for that one.
141 posted on 09/28/2014 4:39:11 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

I agree. I saw it firsthand here in FL. We had nothing when we needed it most. But Obamas GOTV was enough to put him over.

However, I still honestly feel that Romney would have pulled it off had he not wimped out in the debates. Playing Mr. Nice Guy doesn’t win fights. The difference is that he viewed it as sport, not battle.

That attitude kills on the battlefield. Show no mercy, give no quarter, and never look back!


142 posted on 09/28/2014 4:49:10 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (RINO VOTES DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE: THEY ARE ESSENTIAL FOR DEMOCRAT INITIATIVES.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

1. Redskins was just jibber jabber until the FTC revoked the copyright. That is 100% administration, senate can just bark about it.
2. The “continuing” resolutions means Obama can fund anything he wants, RINOs don’t want to stop that.
3. Again, 100% administration
4. You honestly believe the vilification stops just because Harry Reid isn’t speaker? Do the oceans stop rising and Obama’s other promises come true too?
5. I want conservative bills, not republican ones.
6. Again, an administration decision. Rinos not willing to play hardball on this.
7. Obamacare happened in the past, my question was bout the next senate.
8. There are committees now in the house... and the result is?

Picturing an alternative past is great, I’d like to have a tea party president instead of Obama. We have to look forward, and right now... Rinos aren’t willing to be confrontational with the current administration in any way beyond beating their chests in committee hearings.


143 posted on 09/28/2014 4:51:23 PM PDT by csivils
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To: redangus

There is a tongue in cheek definition of diplomacy being the art of saying nice dogie while you look for a stick. That pretty much sums up how the GOPe treats conservatives. If a tea party candidate does have a good message and wins the primary, the GOPe does not support them... in fact tries to sabotage them.

I don’t mind having to debate, or out campaign a RINO. I’m done with having to pull the knife out of my back. Until the GOPe can convince me the game is fair... they lost my support for “party”. I’ll support conservatives. There is too much at stake to worry about being sold out by my own team.


144 posted on 09/28/2014 4:57:32 PM PDT by csivils
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To: redangus

And the problem with you party above principle types is that the only difference between the RINOs and Democrats voting record is that the RINOs vote liberal only when it truly counts.

The reason the GOPe feels entitled to your vote is because you are willing to sell it to the lowest bidder as long as they put an R beside the name. If you would quit rewarding them for pushing RINOs, they would stop.

Better to continue on and be a completely unprincipled party hack, because at least you’re a Republican Party Hack by god!


145 posted on 09/28/2014 5:05:27 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (RINO VOTES DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE: THEY ARE ESSENTIAL FOR DEMOCRAT INITIATIVES.)
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To: cotton1706

I say, let ‘em flop, not as if they’ll do anything to stop Obama anyway.


146 posted on 09/28/2014 5:07:47 PM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: csivils

Damn straight!


147 posted on 09/28/2014 5:09:29 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (RINO VOTES DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE: THEY ARE ESSENTIAL FOR DEMOCRAT INITIATIVES.)
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To: redangus
"If you got 100 of you together in a room you couldn’t agree with what to order on your pizza."

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And apparently you would order an abortion pizza.

148 posted on 09/28/2014 5:16:34 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: bert

Nobody wants to hear your clear facts and salient logic, OK? We want all information to confirm our pre-existing beliefs or we just don’t want to hear it.


149 posted on 09/28/2014 7:31:45 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I know, I know.

I just can’t help it. The wisdom just keeps bubbling out


150 posted on 09/29/2014 4:29:15 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bert

Would you have the simple courtesy to, at least once in a while, succumb to thoughtless absurdism?


151 posted on 09/29/2014 4:56:16 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Manic_Episode

As someone who lost a child due to an unwanted abortion I won’t glorify your disgusting personal attack with the response I would like to make.

It suffices to say that it that type of thoughtless comment that cost conservatives support at all levels.


152 posted on 10/07/2014 9:04:44 AM PDT by redangus
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To: redangus

Then you above all others should know better than to vote for a politician with a career long record of supporting baby murder. That’s not a purity test, that’s a line that can never be crossed, yet most crossed it. I don’t know who you voted for and don’t really care, but I interpreted your comment as party over principle. I also don’t want to know about your personaly tragedies however I do apologize fory flippancy.


153 posted on 10/07/2014 10:41:06 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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