Posted on 09/26/2014 1:47:45 AM PDT by Purdabo 248
No Richard Head, I am the guy smart enough not to shoot my mouth off and live to tell the story. Come on down here to the south and try it your way.
I honestly don't know. I live in the south now (That happened in NYS just outside Buffalo).
The cops down here are a whole lot more polite, but like you said that was 25 years ago.
Most people aren't trained in how to deal with the Stasi. They don't immediately consider themselves on the edge of a gun fight when pulled over for a traffic stop. They presume the police are benign, not realizing that far too many police are scared silly of their own shadow and treat every interaction as if they are dealing with a chainsaw murderer.
When you ask someone to produce their license, they tend to reach for something. I always remove my money-clip when I am driving very far and place it in the center console.
As the traffic stop was for a seat belt violation, there was hardly probable cause to presume that the driver was armed and dangerous. In the absense of seeing an actual weapon, one might reasonably assume that drawing the weapon and holding a bead on the man would have been sufficient. Not responding to direction has many possible causes, such as hearing loss.
Bottom line, if I shot a stranger in my driveway, because I suspected they were reaching for a gun in their vehicle, I'd be sitting in a cell, charged with 1st degree murder.
Amazing what a little clarity and calmness will bring to a situation.
Not all cops are a$$holes.
He instructed the man to get his license. I would have made the same move. The burden was on him to ask the cop how to achieve that without being shot?!?! C’mon man. Lucky the cop had bad aim I guess.
This particular “badge” was incompetent, I’m sure you agree, as evidenced by his firing and charges.
MURDER - Plain and simple ignorance by a trigger happy untrained gestapo thug.
Absolutely, laws are for the little people, not the jackboot thugs.
Gale: All right, ya hayseeds, it’s a stick-up. Everybody freeze. Everybody down on the ground.
Feisty Hayseed: Well, which is it, young feller? You want I should freeze or get down on the ground? Mean to say, if’n I freeze, I can’t rightly drop. And if’n I drop, I’m a-gonna be in motion. You see...
Gale: Shut up!
Feisty Hayseed: Okay then.
Gale: Everybody down on the ground!
Evelle: Y’all can just forget that part about freezin’ now.
Gale: Better still to get down there.
Evelle: Yeah, y’all hear that, don’t ya?
[Everybody lays down. Gale looks at the now-empty teller windows]
Gale: Shit! Where’d all the tellers go?
Teller’s voices: We’re down here, sir.
Evelle: They’re on the floor as you commanded, Gale.
-Raising Arizona (1987)
We don't even need these fat heads. “You people” have been convinced that cops are must have. All you need are a few.deputies of an elected Sheriff. The Sheriff ahould be meek and fearful of keeping his job.
Not like it used to.......that statement was more operative, say, 20-30 years ago.
Hilarity always ensues over threads like this between those who love tyrants and those who do not.
” No, utilize some baseline intellect. “Yes,
Officer, it’s in my car. Can I get it for you?”
Respect the badge a little, it tends to
respect you back.”
Bull. Maybe the cop should use baseline intellect, instead of unreasoned fear. The victim wasn’t stupid. He just doesn’t understand how cowardly most cops are. A cop who can’t handle fear should not be a cop.
We are not supposed to live in fear of a cops unreasoned fear, with us on edge least scratching yourself earn a bullet by a paranoid freek.
Cops are the professionals here. Act like it., not like a.....cat.
when I got pulled over, I put my keys on the dashboard, kept my hands on the wheel until the officer told me to reach for my wallet.
I was carrying but he didn’t ask and I didn’t tell. In PA you don’t have to inform police when pulled over.
MURDER - Plain and simple ignorance by a trigger happy untrained gestapo thug.
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I think someone has to die in order for there to be a murder.
Back then, law enforcement was all about protecting property and keeping the peace. They worked FOR the citizens and the community.
Now they seal themselves up in squad cars and set up speed traps or harass drivers needlessly who have a taillight out or didn't come to a complete halt at a stop sign.
What is it about automobiles that change the game?
If I'm just walking down the street, no police officer is going to stop me and pat me down. Yet as soon as I get into a car, I need to put myself on guard that I could get pulled over, detained and searched at any time for any reason - at the officers whim. While many traffic stops are fairly benign and involve a ticket or warning, it really does not take much to escalate a routine traffic stop into a situation where you are suddenly subject to arrest and getting tossed into the maw of our criminal justice system.
Our jails and prisons are full of otherwise law-abiding people who happened to in an automobile at the wrong time and place.
If you have a dinner out with your wife and had a glass or two of wine, how do you answer a police officer who stops you at a roadblock, shines a flashlight in your face, and asks you if you had anything to drink that night? Do you lie to the officer in front of your wife so that he can wave you through? Or do you give a truthful answer that will result in you being pulled from your vehicle and administered a demeaning DUI test on the side of the road. Bear in mind that if you admit to an officer that you had anything at all to drink, you will NOT be driving home that night, regardless of how you perform on your field sobriety test.
Or imagine this scenario. Your teenage son borrows the car and he takes his delinquent buddies for a joyride and they shove empty beer bottles and marijuana joints under the seats. Maybe even some cocaine residue is left behind. Unknowingly you take the car to work the next day and get pulled over for speeding. The officer notices a "smell" of marijuana (their noses are very sensitive to that) and suddenly you are sitting on the curb in handcuffs while a K-9 unit is dispatched to do a thorough search of your vehicle. You are now going to jail on drug charges and your career and reputation is ruined.
You may scoff at these examples but trust me, this kind of stuff happens every day.
Where does it say in the Constitution that I forfeit my rights when I get inside an automobile?
Black people can’t win. He tries to avoid getting shot for not complying with the cop’s order then gets shot for complying too quickly. In the end I predict the cop is found to have followed departmental procedure.
Is this another suppressed story 0bola has to release nationally with Jarrett at a later date, like, October surprise? If so, it will cause riots.
If the officer did do this, he should be in jail for permanence.
Is this another suppressed story 0bola has to release nationally with Jarrett at a later date, like, October surprise? If so, it will cause riots.
If the officer did do this, he should be in jail for permanence.
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The video is out there for all to see. Suppressed? That’s funny. It’s was the lead story on local news channels 1000 miles away, and was shown in the first 5 minutes of all of the national morning programs this morning.
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