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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“That’s how we got FDR’s New Deal.” And a whole raft of other crap...

But it took concurrence by the House...the POPULARLY elected House for any of it to come to pass.

I don’t think repeal would matter one whit....


10 posted on 09/25/2014 3:01:38 AM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: Adder
I don’t think repeal would matter one whit....

Then why did ratifying the amendment make a whit?

11 posted on 09/25/2014 5:00:57 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: Adder
I don’t think repeal would matter one whit

It would change the attitude of all Senators. Instead of trying to please voters, senators would try to please their respective state congresses. Polls would be almost meaningless to Senators.

It would give more power to the states.

Without the 17th Ammendment, Republicans would control the Senate and there wouldn't have been Obamacare

13 posted on 09/25/2014 5:28:45 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Adder

The political make up of the Senate would have be very different. I Doubt FDR would even have proposed the “New Deal” instead he would have campaigned for something very different and much more State controlled.

This was true for both sides of the political ails back then, and thou i need not explain the conservative reasons for opposition, i will point out that corrupt nanny state liberals in state government also lost much, primarily because most of their political power came form machines that ran States like New York, and Ohio by way of the Political patronage trains that almost invariably accompany welfare states.

Theses local machine almost to a man fell apart after FDR’s new deal, as their source of power, the local welfare state was absorbed by Washington. Obviously a devastating development for the corrupt powers that ran theses states just as it was for the freer more conservative Americans in other states who would have been of the bunch more likely to have recognized their eventual lose of the ability to govern themselves.

Most particularly made clear in the case of FDR in the 30’s and 40’s but watching the senate elections and judicial nominations it was very clear how the Senate and subsuqnt behavior of Washington was now changing dramatically over the following decades. As the old More State based interest were replaced with more nationalistic mob based interest reflective of the design and propose of the house.


24 posted on 09/26/2014 2:28:48 PM PDT by Monorprise
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