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The Case for Delayed Adulthood
NY TIMES ^ | 9/19/14 | Laurence Steinberg

Posted on 09/22/2014 4:52:54 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

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To: Oberon
I agree with you on that. I think you start teaching them to be adults as they mature and when they do leave they have a better chance of not having to come back.

My sister and I left and never came back. My brother was back and forth quite a bit. He was a problem child. But he eventually finally left for good. Some people are just late bloomers and or they are just slow to get the concept.

61 posted on 09/22/2014 7:31:55 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“The problem is... the drive to have sex is what gave children to drive to want to grow up.”

At the time the nation was founded by the age of 16 boys and girls were doing the work of adults. The alternative was starvation as a child who didn’t work would be kicked out of the house.

When the child did leave home in the late teens, it was much easier for two to work a new farm than one. Again, survival was the driving need. Certainly the addition of children over time helped to ease the burdens on the couple because even at an early age children could do many chores. The work ethic was instilled at an early age and the skills to perform the work required to survive were learned at an early age.

Today’s education system (primary, secondary, college), provides little of the knowledge required to earn a living. Every year in May and June our universities turn out millions of psychology, history, women’s studies, sociology, and other liberal arts graduates who have no skills of value to the small businesses employing 90% of the employees in the private sector economy, much less the large companies employing the rest. Certainly none of these graduates are capable of growing crops or raising animals.

As far as wanting to grow up, my parents made it very clear from an early age I would grow up or starve. I was expected to do chores. I started working (on a neighborhood tobacco farm) at the age of six for 25 cents per day. I had a paper route, I mowed yards, I painted houses, and I performed other work for neighbors until I reached the age I could obtain a work permit which allowed me to work in a fast food restaurant while maintaining my paper route and other sources of cash income. In college I worked for a moving & storage company and in the kitchen of a restaurant. The day after graduation I was went to work full time for a company I had been doing analytical work for part time during my last year. My parents expected me to work and they expected me to be self sufficient.

Looking back on it, the day I left home to go to college I could not have envisioned any circumstance where my parents would have taken me back into their home. I knew I was on my own and survival was up to me. Fortunately, I knew how to use my hands and my mind to make money. None of that knowledge came from the public school system. As I think back on that time, sex was certainly on my mind but most of my efforts were directed at earning enough money to pay the rent and keep food in the refrigerator.


62 posted on 09/22/2014 7:35:50 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

And to think that 18 year olds are allowed to vote.


63 posted on 09/22/2014 7:37:00 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Oberon
Then they just go to their government daddy to pay the bills in the form of welfare.

As I stated you can't “make” anyone grow up.

Anyone can live their entire lives without growing up if they so choose. And with the government or a family enabling them, they can live quite comfortably.

64 posted on 09/22/2014 7:48:57 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: defconw

I see your point about the single Mom’s. We are an intact family, but we are in process of building a modest home around us, it is unfinished as we live in it, and my husband works but has some health issues and so my son’s are helping with that as well. I’m having difficulty finding a job right now, hence the working together to keep this ship sailing.


65 posted on 09/22/2014 7:52:27 AM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The fact of the matter is:

If girls refused to even talk to a guy who didn’t have a job, a car and his own place.

The age of kids reaching adulthood would be at all time low, and employment of the youth would be at an all time high.


66 posted on 09/22/2014 7:53:09 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Just waiting for a CEO job in Management to open.


67 posted on 09/22/2014 8:06:42 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: sportutegrl

Yeah, maybe could get away with a required core competency exam for those 18-21 years old-

20 questions, pass with 13 correct answers. Multiple choice + T/F + essay. Don’t want to alienate servicemen and women. Offend, maybe. Alienate, no.


68 posted on 09/22/2014 8:08:12 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Lil Flower
Your son sounds like a good kid. I don't really see anything wrong with a kid staying home as long as they contribute to the household in some way.

I have known single women who just aren't in a hurry for the kids to leave. As long as it mutually beneficial.

I know there has been talk of the boomers moving back in with their parents. Mostly this is due to health considerations. We almost had to move in with my MIL. Thanks be, it was decided that she could afford assisted living. She is 89. But not everyone can. It's about 40,000-50,000 a year to live in one of those places.

69 posted on 09/22/2014 8:08:20 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Soul of the South
I was thinking about what you said about the work ethic and all. Back in the day many parents had their own farms and or small businesses that they could transition a kid into running.

The government has made it nearly unaffordable to pass on the family farm, business etc. They just screw us every way they can.

Then again in order to take on dad's business, you have to have a dad.

I heard that in Minnesota they were trying to pass a law that would prohibit a kid from working on a farm unless their own parents owned it. So no working at the uncles or grandparents. I don't know if it passed. We got out of Minnesota.

70 posted on 09/22/2014 8:16:46 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I would say this: if people are living a lot longer, it would only be logical that some stage development would skew by a few years.

What causative factors of people living longer, have any effect on someone's early adult development? I fail to see any connection whatsoever.

71 posted on 09/22/2014 8:22:09 AM PDT by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: Go Gordon
I don't know, maybe the fact that we are living longer reduces the urge to get out and see the world for the younger people.

Back when people were dead by 40 there might have been a greater sense of urgency.

Plus these last couple of generations have been so protected by their parents, that perhaps we've made them afraid to leave the nest. What have they been taught? There is a boogieman behind ever corner and if you ride your bike without a helmet you will die. If you sit in a car seat until you are 12 you will die.

Thanks God some of the kids were not raised that way or no one would be in the military.

Speaking of which our nephew when he was doing his stint recruiting for the Marines, said the hardest thing was getting the moms to let them go.

72 posted on 09/22/2014 8:38:55 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Go Gordon

Then you’re not paying attention. People are staying youthful longer - they are doing a lot of things differently. Some of this is good, some of it is not, but to deny it is to close your mind.

If people entered adulthood at 18 when life expectancy was 35-45-55 etc - that indicates maybe 30 years of the rat race of responsibility. If they’re living to 85 now, it doesn’t make the human psyche and body able to handle 50-60 years of the rat race.


73 posted on 09/22/2014 8:42:22 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: sten

“why else would people still be on their parents insurance until 26”
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When I was a lad 26 was considered middle age.


74 posted on 09/22/2014 9:43:15 AM PDT by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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To: defconw
Also in the old days was it not the general practice that women stayed with their parents until they were married? Seems prior to 1960's that was largely true.

Single women should still live at home with their parents as far as I'm concerned.

75 posted on 09/23/2014 8:59:19 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: SoFloFreeper

These childish idiots never realize life is not a dress rehearsal. There is no second chance.


76 posted on 09/23/2014 9:00:23 PM PDT by CodeToad (Romney is a raisin cookie looking for chocolate chip cookie votes.)
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To: Age of Reason

:) I won’t tell on you.


77 posted on 09/24/2014 4:16:06 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

If so, then we need to raise the voting age.


78 posted on 09/24/2014 4:22:37 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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