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To: P-Marlowe
The Declaration of Independence is still the founding document of our country and the principles enshrined in that document are still valid.

The Declaration is not a governing document and has no force of law.

The Federal Government is 1000 times more tyrannical now than the British Government was under George III.

Have you actually read the Declaration of Independence? Specifically this:

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Since the Federal Government draws its powers from the consent (however misguided) of the governed and since the Constitution provides many mechanisms for the people to alter their government, you don't even have the Declaration to fall back on. A majority of the voting public voted for Obama -- a majority of the 13 colonies did NOT vote for George III. There's a critical difference there.

48 posted on 09/20/2014 10:42:52 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

You obviously proceed from the stupid notion that our Rights come from government.

That is this people supposedly “vote” for a MarxoFascist tyranny (disregarding blatant fraud) that then neuters and abolishes our Rights by legal precedents and decrees, you suggest that somehow that has more force of ‘law’ than the Declaration of Independence???

Sorry bub, the Declaration is an affirmation that our Rights come from The Divine Power - and as such, supersede and are higher than any “law” of men or government. Government has no jurisdiction to infringe or intrude on our Rights, yet they do so under the ‘color of law’ that you would say trumps the Declaration.

We as a people are no longer consenting to be governed - we are being RULED, robbed, coerced and threatened with clear violations of the Constitution itself.

At this point, if a moral people still want a Republic, then the Declaration of Independence is the only just force of law we have left to safeguard our Divine gifts, since the Constitution has been corrupted and abrogated to the tyrannical rule of evil men.


55 posted on 09/20/2014 11:45:37 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Alter Kaker
The Declaration is not a governing document and has no force of law.

It has the force of NATURAL LAW. It assumes that our rights as delineated in that document come from God and not men and that whenever the government becomes destructive of those rights, it becomes the duty of the people to overthrow it, by whatever means necessary. If secession is the only remaining means (such as the Declaration of Independence) then that is the means that needs to be implemented.

57 posted on 09/20/2014 12:09:48 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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