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BREAKING NEWS: Alex Salmond resigns hours after Scotland votes no to independence
The Daily Mail ^ | 19 September 2014 | Tom McTague & Matt Chorley

Posted on 09/19/2014 8:55:10 AM PDT by Fenhalls555

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To: Vanders9

What ignorance.

Wallace was no savage, but an educated (minor) nobleman who travelled across Europe, spoke French and Latin. Yes, he was brutal when fighting, but by god so was everyone else at the time. Have you forgotten what Henry V did to French prisoners?.

I expected better from you.


101 posted on 09/22/2014 12:22:00 PM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: the scotsman
I'm sorry.

I just get teed off by Scottish nationalists, particularly those whose only political thinking on the issue is based on a hate-england mentality stirred up by that bloody awful film.

The fact is that there is very little definitively known about the real William Wallace, but he certainly was nothing like he was portrayed in Braveheart. I would say though that even by the standards of the time he pushed the savagery envelope. Not as much as Robert the Bruce did, but bad enough.

102 posted on 09/22/2014 11:34:29 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: ChildOfThe60s; the scotsman

Actually, having spoken to a lot of nationalists, I dont think its anti-tory so much as anti-city of london.


103 posted on 09/22/2014 11:36:49 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

Fair enough.

I know, but spare a thought for me, I am the one having to live amongst them, lol.


104 posted on 09/22/2014 11:37:26 PM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: the scotsman

Well, at least you only have a 45% chance of meeting one. :)


105 posted on 09/23/2014 1:56:47 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

33.33% actually, lol.


106 posted on 09/23/2014 7:03:41 AM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: A CA Guy
Such a vote IMO should require a 62-67% threshold to pass

At last! An intelligent comment about "democracy"!

Look - for choosing which of two dopes gets to be a congressman, or the dog catcher, having their fellow dopes vote and letting the winner have the prize is at least half-reasonable.

Having 4.5% of the residents of a 300 year old state choose to dissolve it, over the objections of the other 95.5%, in an election when children and foreigners get to vote, is just plain ridiculous.

The various Quebec independence referenda are the same. The last time, "oui" lost by several thousand votes out of millions cast. Suppose next time "oui" wins by several thousand votes? Does that mean that millions of Canadians need to surrender their nationality unwillingly?

Fundamental changes require massive majorities, or they should. Changing the US Constitution requires 2/3 of the House, 2/3 of the Senate, and 3/4 of the States. To change the (unwritten) constitution of the UK by a simple majority of a tiny minority, when Nigerians and Pakistanis get to vote along with actual Scots?

It is just so blindingly idiotic, I still can't believe such an "election" was allowed to take place.

The Founders abhorred "democracy", and for good reason.

107 posted on 09/23/2014 11:51:41 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble

The issue is bigger than a treaty and should require a large majority for such a drastic shift IMO.
I understand with all the socialism and the Muslim problems of England how they would want to break away from the lunacy.


108 posted on 09/23/2014 4:31:04 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: goldstategop

Should take a large majority and not the flavor of the month.


109 posted on 09/23/2014 4:33:04 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Jim Noble

The Founders were so, so right in abhorring democracy, as opposed to republicanism.


110 posted on 09/24/2014 3:47:24 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: the scotsman

Have you seen all the “We were robbed” and “the vote was rigged” videos that are swarming the internet now?


111 posted on 09/25/2014 11:33:44 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: A CA Guy

Scotland is way more socialist than England. Way more. In fact, if Scotland had become independent its quite possible that it would have cost the Labour party the next general election.


112 posted on 09/25/2014 11:35:58 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

Not to much aware of it as surrounded by it at the moment.


113 posted on 09/27/2014 2:45:17 PM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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