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Putin 'privately threatened to invade Poland, Romania and the Baltic states'
telegraph.co.uk ^ | September 18, 2014 | Justin Huggler

Posted on 09/18/2014 11:39:08 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Tailgunner Joe

Now is the time for Putin to follow any dream he might have. As long as Obama and his filthy democrats-cowards all, are in power, there isn’t any country that could stop Putin.


21 posted on 09/18/2014 12:21:51 PM PDT by Gator113 ( Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin and Mike Lee speak for me, most everyone else is just noise.)
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To: Wuli

Putin should enjoy himself while he can, because this Presidency isn’t going to last forever.


22 posted on 09/18/2014 12:25:05 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Tailgunner Joe

There’s an ugly coalition regarding Russia:

On one side:
* Homosexuals with their penises bent out of shape that Russia won’t consecrate their mutual destruction of soul and body.
* Baby-killers who are freaking out that Russia is leading an effort to reverse the demographic suicide of the West by severely restricting abortion and raising the birth rate.
* Kleptocratic socialist oligarchs who characterized Putin’s oligopoly-busting as destroying rival powers. These people call Yanukovich accepting a $14 billion government loan as stealing $14 billion from his own people, but didn’t bat an eye when Yuschenko personally profited billions of dollars off her own people when she negotiated an oil deal with Lukoil.

On the other side, we have:
* Protestant who view Orthodox and Catholics as non-Christians and who are so ignorant of the Stalinist massacre of 90% of Orthodox priests that they can’t understand why locals exploit laws against slandering religion to block them hate-peddling preachers from coming into America
* Catholics who want back the land and churches stolen from them by the Soviets (Obviously, I have the most sympathy for these)
* Military-supporting but politically correct who prefer Russia-bashing to publicly talking about our real military threats, who have massive media influence in America: the Chinese and Islamofascists.

And in the “mainstream”:
* Saudi meat puppets.

Nearly everyone in America trusts one of these special interests for their news.

But the simple fact is that Crimea has been part of Russia, not the Ukraine, for centuries, up until 1993.

Finding itself administered locally by Ukrainians, when the Soviet Union fell apart, it joined Ukraine only because Ukraine promised it would remain autonomous. In 1994, when the Crimean parliament voted in a way that Kiev didn’t like (allowing its citizens who had Russian passports to retain them), the Ukraine rescinded Ukraine’s autonomy, suspended their legislature, and placed them under direct rule of Kiev. Meanwhile, as Ukraine was becoming non-democratic to the Ukraine, Russia became a democracy. When Kiev ousted the Crimea-friendly president, it was quite natural for Crimea to want to join their fellow Russian-speaking Russian ethnics in Russia. The only thing that kept them part of Ukraine — peace-seeking — evaporated with the slaughter of hundreds of peaceful protesters by Kiev forces in Odessa, an event which didn’t make the US news. (Also NOT making the US mainstream news: the revelation that the bullets that killed the hundreds of Kiev protesters came from building controlled by anti-government activists.)

Donetsk is an entirely separate case. Russian speakers have been heavily discriminated against in an effort to end their cultural ties with Russia. (This is what many people call “cultural genocide,” but I like to reserve the word “genocide” for when millions of people are actually being murdered.)

If Russia wanted to invade, it would have done so with enough troops to simply march in a straight line to Kiev. What has happened instead is that Donetsk separatists, tired of being labelled “terrorists” decided to meet the Geneva-convention definition of being an army by buying themselves uniforms to identify themselves as ethnically and linguisticially Russians. It’s also quite normal — and therefore quite likely — that some of their Russian family members who found themselves on opposite sides of a border which sprang up in 1993 joined in their fight. But the presence of military surplus supplies and a small number of vacationing Russian family members hardly constitutes an invasion.

In fact, Russia’s reluctance to support the Russian-language separatists in Donetsk clearly confounded and amazed those separatists.

So now, Putin’s peace proposal is that Donetsk and Luhansk enjoy the autonomy that Crimea was promised but never given. No, it won’t give Russia control of the Ukrainian pipelines, but Russia has other pipelines. No, it won’t give Russia land access to Crimea, but a mile-long bridge across mild, placid waters is much easier than the simplest, smallest of invasions. And no, it won’t give the Eurasianist-nutter micro-minority groups in Russia their dreams of renewed empire... but that’s why they’ve always hated Putin from the start.


23 posted on 09/18/2014 12:26:12 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Typos corrected:

* ProtestantS who view Orthodox and Catholics as non-Christians and who are so ignorant of the Stalinist massacre of 90% of Orthodox priests that they can’t understand why locals exploit laws against slandering religion to block hate-peddling preachers from coming FROM America


24 posted on 09/18/2014 12:27:16 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Ouch! Why can I only see these when I post!

“Meanwhile, as Ukraine was becoming non-democratic to CRIMEA, Russia became a democracy.”


25 posted on 09/18/2014 12:28:44 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Dammit! One more BAD error:

I called Yulia Tymochenko by the name of her predecessor!


26 posted on 09/18/2014 12:29:54 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“”If I wanted, in two days I could have Russian troops not only in Kiev, but also in Riga, Vilnius, Tallinn, Warsaw and Bucharest,”__ pootin

Yes, pootin, you ugly twat, you would have started WW3 that would only ensure your Russians would die en masse just like in WW2. But this time, due to your sub replacement level birth rate and Islamic Caucasions as neighbors, your bloated nation will be no more.


27 posted on 09/18/2014 12:34:43 PM PDT by sagar
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To: GraceG
Well he certainly projects something....


28 posted on 09/18/2014 12:58:07 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Invade Poland!?! This Russkie son a bitch is really asking for it! The Poles would love that, they’d be chomping at the bit. They haven’t forgotten that just it was 75 years ago yesterday the The Soviet Union invaded their country three weeks after the Germans did. And nor have they forgotten The Katyn Forest Massacre. Yeah, ok Putin old boy, bring it.


29 posted on 09/18/2014 1:08:44 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

More like an empty boast.

Russian troops would play hell getting into Warsaw in 2 days. Without nukes, I doubt they could do it in 2 months. And that is presuming that the Poles were fighting alone.


30 posted on 09/18/2014 1:22:18 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Someone in Moscow thinks someone in DC is lacking cojones.

Very dangerous situation...

5.56mm


31 posted on 09/18/2014 1:55:33 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: dangus

Thank you for posting this — typos and all!


32 posted on 09/18/2014 2:11:47 PM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: dangus

You pro-Russia/anti American people have been with us for a hundred years, you are nothing new.


33 posted on 09/18/2014 2:25:00 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Tailgunner Joe; All
"Putin 'privately threatened to invade
Poland, Romania and the Baltic states'"


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34 posted on 09/18/2014 2:27:59 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: musicman

Boy do I miss Jay Leno! Can’t stand that mincing little fairy they replaced him with, and the untalented thugs that apparently mugged the Tonight Show Band.


35 posted on 09/18/2014 2:37:13 PM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: RaveOn

(I agree!!)

36 posted on 09/18/2014 3:05:24 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

When did the conversation take place, and were they drinking at the time?


37 posted on 09/18/2014 6:37:00 PM PDT by reefdiver (The fool says there is no God. And the bigger fools sees direct evidence and rages against it.)
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