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To: thackney
Do you believe they are selling those products today, below the market price? Do you think they would sell any of it, if they were charging some significant amount above the market price?

No, but if they are supplying enough of a commodity to the "global economy" they should be able to influence the price. Just like the Arabs did in the past.

There's no such thing as "fair trade"...we deal with unfair international competition all the time...that makes us suckers. It should be a two way street.

Please, no subsidies for special groups, not even the ones that hire my company.

I never suggested a subsidy, only a tax incentive.

The government should not select winners and losers.

The government wouldn't be doing the selecting...the companies desiring the tax break would be self-selecting.

The government should not take from one group to give to another.

I don't see how you can suggest that is what would be happening. The industry should be ruthless, providing needed global commodities in exchange for $2.00 gas. (and a fat tax break)

I'm sure the bookkeepers could work it all out.

58 posted on 09/22/2014 4:40:20 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
if they are supplying enough of a commodity to the "global economy" they should be able to influence the price.

We are not. Do you believe they are not charging the most they can get for their product and still sell what we produce?

Just like the Arabs did in the past.

By have a huge share of the market (which we don't) AND by holding back product and not selling it, OPEC drove prices up. Those refineries need to keep running because they don't produce a single product. Gasoline and Diesel are the primary drivers for the flow rate. Much of what we are selling are effectively "leftovers" of lower value. For example Petroleum Coke is often used for a coal substitute, raise the price above that and they just use coal.

we deal with unfair international competition all the time...that makes us suckers. It should be a two way street.

Selling a relatively small amount of globally-produced fungible-commodities and thinking you can dictate price is naive.

I never suggested a subsidy, only a tax incentive.

So you don't consider the past ethanol tax credit per gallon a subsidy? I do. And what you suggest, giving special taxes to selected products is the government choosing the winners and losers. You support the wind tax credit as well?

The government wouldn't be doing the selecting...the companies desiring the tax break would be self-selecting.

WHAT??? The government hands out tax credits on selected products and you think they didn't select which products get them and which don't? You want special tax credits to companies that export products that are not given to those that only produce domestically?

providing needed global commodities in exchange for $2.00 gas

You should try a little math for the volumes you are talking about. Small increase to small volumes that are priced relatively lower are not going to provide large decreases to large volumes of more expensive products.

59 posted on 09/23/2014 4:51:10 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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