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Black Crime in Baltimore High -- but Should be Higher
American Thinker ^ | 9/16/2014

Posted on 09/16/2014 3:31:31 PM PDT by Altura Ct.

Crime in Baltimore is dropping like a pile of hot rocks. And Elliott Einbinder knows the reason why: It is hard to get arrested there.

Einbinder is a Jewish dentist who was attacked last week on his way to afternoon prayers near his office -- all in front of witnesses willing to tell police what they saw. Let’s pick up the story from Baltimore Jewish Life:

“One 24-year-old African American female followed him and sucker punched him on the side of his head, swelling his lip and breaking his glasses. She continued to throw punches as Dr. Einbinder tried to swat her away.”

"I thought this was a 15-year old boy. She was half my size and just didn't appear to be a female. I kept asking her why she was doing this to me; I said, 'I didn't anything to you'! She spat on me and according to one witness, she said, "C'mon, fight me Jew.”

“The attacker originally told police that the doctor began the altercation but when witnesses contradicted her story she admitted to the police that she was "just having a bad day."

“He is also upset at the way the laws are written in that the officers on the scene were unable to arrest her even with the tens of witnesses to this attack on hand. Apparently an attack of this sort is considered a 2nd Degree Assault and unless witnessed by a Police Officer, and/or unless any type of weapon is used an arrest cannot be made.”

More than 20 witnesses. A crime scene confession. A shaken victim, willing to press charges. And what happened?

Nothing.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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To: TexasGator; Will88

“could main her” should have been “could maim her”.


21 posted on 09/16/2014 4:13:38 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: Altura Ct.

More than 20 witnesses. A crime scene confession. A shaken victim, willing to press charges. And what happened?
Nothing.

This is Maryland. You don’t get much more liberal then Maryland. They will do whatever they can to lessen the actual crime rates..


22 posted on 09/16/2014 4:16:51 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: TexasGator

the assaulter must be rendered incapable. proportion must be measured. the only real surveyors are a jury. They must measure the proportionality and apply a generous fear multiple to off set the adrenaline factor of the assaulter.


23 posted on 09/16/2014 4:18:19 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Will88

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlvvCYUDHrQ

Language

“A man can never hit a woman? Would it have been it permissible for the dentist here to punch his female attacker?”

Women don’t chimp out.


24 posted on 09/16/2014 4:26:17 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: TexasGator

What you’re posting applies to any situation imaginable where self-defense might become necessary. All those technicalities do not mean that a man must cede his right to self-defense if he is being attacked by a woman.

That’s the only point I have intended to make here.


25 posted on 09/16/2014 4:43:10 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

“All those technicalities do not mean that a man must cede his right to self-defense if he is being attacked by a woman.”

The are not ‘technicalities’. Your previous statement (reposted below) clearly shows that you misunderstand the law.

“But if it’s clearly a case of self-defense from an attacking woman, yep, a man can hit her, hard and more than once. “


26 posted on 09/16/2014 4:52:13 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Altura Ct.

Seeing how she hit him twice, it does make her eligible to chow down on some lead.

The ‘bad’ part of defending oneself in the knockout game is it is one punch and run - under what ‘they’ say, once the attacker is leaving it is ‘illegal’ for you to chase him and shoot him in the street - although it is definitely deserved.

That was the 2nd claim in Ferguson..when the ‘He was standing with his hands up didn’t ‘work’’ they tried ‘he shot him in the back while he was trying to leave’.

However, when it comes to a ‘felony’ (assault on a police officer) I don’t think they are held to the same ‘legal’ ruling of chasing and/or shooting him while he is departing.


27 posted on 09/16/2014 4:57:15 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) If you can't convince them, confuse them.)
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To: RightInJersey

If the guy pulled a gun and shot her, you bet your ass someone would have been arrested.


28 posted on 09/16/2014 5:05:47 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: Altura Ct.

“Apparently an attack of this sort is considered a 2nd Degree Assault “

Assault on a non-protected minority.


29 posted on 09/16/2014 5:09:51 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: Altura Ct.
Crime in Baltimore is dropping like a pile of hot rocks. And Elliott Einbinder knows the reason why: It is hard to get arrested there.

Democrats and "progressives" are nothing if not creative.

Redefine the crime. Problem solved.

30 posted on 09/16/2014 5:15:35 PM PDT by publius911 (`)
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To: Altura Ct.

This is nothing new. Maryland’s corrupticrats have been misleading the public for decades. Crime rates are SO high in Baltimore and PG county alone, those counties routinely delay reporting to the FBI via UCR before elections to push the numbers down. “Look how safe our neighborhoods are under democrat rule, citizens, don’t trust those evil conservatives.” Maryland is regularly rated #1 in violent crime nationally. If you take out those two counties we’re like #13. So it’s only a logical extension to stop reporting crime altogether. Yeah, it’s bad here. I’m not a politician, a lawyer, or otherwise politically connected so I can’t carry concealed.


31 posted on 09/16/2014 5:29:25 PM PDT by normbal (normbal. socialist occupied Maryland)
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To: TexasGator
The are not ‘technicalities’. Your previous statement (reposted below) clearly shows that you misunderstand the law.

If a man is being attacked and repeatedly punched by a woman, yes, he can punch back with enough force to end her assault.

The case in this article is not domestic violence, but an unprovoked attack with a woman punching a man. The dentist might have thought she was so small and such an ineffective puncher, that it didn't require much force in return, but that's just one case.

And, as I said before, you are posting, for whatever reason, a lot of irrelevant detail to a statement that simply says a man does not cede his right to self-defense when being attacked by a woman. He can use whatever force is necessary to overcome the assault.

32 posted on 09/16/2014 5:32:36 PM PDT by Will88
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To: TexasGator
If, however, the threat involves only minor force and the person claiming self-defense uses force that could cause grievous bodily harm or death, the claim of self-defense will fail.

Most ordinary citizens are in no position to instantly judge, assess the severity of a threat and react accordingly.
I know I can't.

If a gorilla who outweighs me 100% charges me, and all I have at hand is a shovel, he would be seriously injured, or worse.

Dogmatism is so cool in the abstract and, as often as not "the law is still a ass..." even in a black robe.

I'll take my chances with a jury of my peers. That IS still my Constitutional protection, no?

33 posted on 09/16/2014 5:34:12 PM PDT by publius911 (`)
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To: publius911

” Most ordinary citizens are in no position to instantly judge, assess the severity of a threat and react accordingly.
I know I can’t.”

So, if your wife hits you on the chest you will pull out your .45 and end the threat?


34 posted on 09/16/2014 5:43:07 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: ifinnegan
She’s not really from CA. Just one of many shove spread the disease here.

Same thing with Barbara Bouncer, the crazy aunt in the dems' basement.

Also not from California, but like Pelosi, arrive in California, screw things royally, then leave, and most local native Californians have no clue what happened.

Jerry Brown?
That senile nut job is a whole other thing. But the results are the same, even if he is a native Californian.

35 posted on 09/16/2014 5:47:06 PM PDT by publius911 (`)
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To: Monorprise

Eric Holder will be right on it. /sarc


36 posted on 09/16/2014 5:50:24 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: TexasGator
So, if your wife hits you on the chest you will pull out your .45 and end the threat?

I see no need to criticize your reading comprehension, but as an adult, I never respond to juvenile hypotheticals that begin with the word, "so..."

For the record, my wife does NOT outweigh me by any percent...

37 posted on 09/16/2014 5:57:15 PM PDT by publius911 (`)
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To: publius911

” but as an adult, I never respond to juvenile hypotheticals that begin with the word, “so...”

Then don’t make idiotic statements that you can’t make threat assessments and decide what type of force is necessary.


38 posted on 09/16/2014 6:00:36 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Will88

A man should never hit a lady. Not all women are ladies.


39 posted on 09/16/2014 6:47:21 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Altura Ct.

Mayors don’t like high crime rates - crime keeps businesses away....

Mayors can deal with crime or request their police departments to look the other way... Since blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime, it’s easy to squelch complaints by calling honest citizens racist.

Problem solved.

Mayor looks good. Police look like they’re dealing with crime. Criminals get a free ride. Liberal elites in safe high rise condos are safe and superior... and ordinary citizens live in fear.


40 posted on 09/16/2014 7:21:53 PM PDT by GOPJ ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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