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Don't Believe President Obama's Hype About An Engineer 'Shortage'
Forbes ^ | 09/15/2014 | John Tamny

Posted on 09/15/2014 3:26:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: a fool in paradise

I am so glad that I am reading this. I thought it was just me!


61 posted on 09/15/2014 7:30:04 PM PDT by kuzafire
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To: Professional Engineer

Love RF


62 posted on 09/15/2014 7:32:32 PM PDT by mylife
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And it is true!
Anyone that expects someone disciplined in ALL the engineering arts for $15 Hr is farking NUTS.


63 posted on 09/15/2014 7:36:53 PM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife

OMG, that was too funny.


64 posted on 09/15/2014 8:06:12 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (You all can go to hell, I'm going to Texas.)
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To: mylife

RF is fun. Cool stuff in there. Most of the guys and dolls in my classes had no clue what the professor and I talked about at times.

With building design, at least people has a smidge of an inkling what I’m talking about. Sometimes.


65 posted on 09/15/2014 8:12:03 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (You all can go to hell, I'm going to Texas.)
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To: mylife
RF engineers are a dying breed as well.

Pretty much replaced by modeling software that can be used by literally anyone with even a basic understanding of wavelength, take-off angles, capacitance and resistance.

Heck, I downloaded antenna modeling software and learned how to use it in about an hour. Built a home-brew 17m (18mhz) antenna in another hour and made contacts around the world same day.

66 posted on 09/15/2014 8:18:29 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: mylife
The Hot/Crazy Matrix...

I laughed so hard because it's true AND someone finally found a way to put it on an easy to understand chart! ROFL!!!!

67 posted on 09/15/2014 8:28:10 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: a fool in paradise; mylife

Have you guys looked at Sologig? It’s the technical/IT only side of Careerbuilder.

Dunno if it’s any better.


68 posted on 09/15/2014 8:43:29 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (You all can go to hell, I'm going to Texas.)
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To: mylife

If anyone knows an rf engineer with shaped beam experience...ping me


69 posted on 09/15/2014 9:00:06 PM PDT by superfries
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To: OftheOhio

I know a company that pays every aerospace engineer with over 10 years exp well over 100k and I’ve recruited over 100 of them.


70 posted on 09/15/2014 9:02:05 PM PDT by superfries
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To: mylife

“Test Engineer”

LOL! $15 an hour!

I am a test engineer, retired for 3 years. I still turn down offers to go back to work at $150k+. And I just relocated from the Houston area to Florida.


71 posted on 09/15/2014 9:03:36 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Professional Engineer; a fool in paradise; mylife

This job stuff is very basic....for defense contractors.

No H1B’s allowed.

Must have the ability to hit the ground running as there is no time to be trained or to learn a task.

Must be a U.S. citizen or you will not be able to get a security clearance.

Some jobs require a clearance to start. If you don’t have it, don’t apply. Some jobs require the ability to gain and maintain govt clearance. If you have a record of domestic violence, don’t apply.

If you have a bankruptcy don’t apply to a job that requires anything over a secret clearance.

There is a job description....ignore it.
There are Basic Qualifications....this is the key.
There should be 4 or 5.

If you do not have the keywords AND experience described in the BQ’s you will not be called for a screening much less an interview. Do not apply. There is no chance for you to get an interview and explain why you would be a great candidate for the job based on things you did not put in your resume or think you COULD do. Let me show you why.

The recruiter designs a Boolean search telling a computer to see who out of the 100 people that applied to the req meet the BQ’s. This drops the people who are qualified vs the people who applied number in half at a minimum. Around 52% of all job applicants apply to jobs they are not qualified for.

So now assume that there are 48 people qualified to do the job left after this search. How do I find the best athlete? I add another search term into the Boolean string. I add the very first DESIRED SKILL to the search.

So under the BQ’s section you will find another section titled DESIRED SKILLS. This where the cream rises. So I add in that 1st desired skill and now I have 20 people that meet all the BQ’s and the 1st Desired Skill. Now a recruiter begins calling and screening people until he gets to a # that he feels will solve for the job. (For most engineering jobs this adding in of the desired skill is not necessary. Do a search for a plasma propulsion engineer with a TS Clearance and tell me how many you find? It won’t be more that 10)

After the screening of the 20, he now knows that these 10 are the best fit. So he sends them to the hiring manager. The hiring manager says I want to interview these 4. He hires one.

The problem is communicating to the other 99 that they did not get the job and doing that well. On the average the company I work for says “NO” to over 1 million people a year and we hire less that 16,000. On the average we and 90% of all companies do their hiring this way and we like the other 90% are still trying to figure out how to say no to the 99% of all applicants and improve the candidate experience.


72 posted on 09/15/2014 9:35:40 PM PDT by superfries
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To: Professional Engineer; a fool in paradise; mylife

Sologig is a service that companies pay to post to on CareerBuilder. It gets an employer more coverage, more media points to the job. As far as it being better than regular CareerBuilder, it isn’t. The exact same job is most likely posted on CareerBuilder and Monster and it it is on any COMPANY website like Boeing or Northrop it is already scraped and published daily to Indeed.com.


73 posted on 09/15/2014 9:39:08 PM PDT by superfries
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To: SeekAndFind

I have trouble believe “a”, “an” and “the” from him.


74 posted on 09/15/2014 9:42:06 PM PDT by RichInOC (Obama: You Have Myyyyy Word On It.)
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To: RichInOC

Da, comrade. Is good.


75 posted on 09/15/2014 9:42:33 PM PDT by RichInOC (Obama: You Have Myyyyy Word On It.)
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To: marron

The author is a Moron. He quotes from a Lockheed executive who cannot employ H1B’s. Who can’t use anyone but U.S. citizens. Then he implies that the answer is Odesk implying that all work can be done remotely and not in a cleared secure environment approved by the govt. What a rube.


76 posted on 09/15/2014 9:50:14 PM PDT by superfries
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To: momincombatboots

If I had it to do all over again I would have become a cyber security engineer. We can’t make them fast enough or good enough and everyone wants them and there is a war for them. Most of the good ones work for banks and insurance companies. Just lost a senior director level guy because another company offered him over 50K more than I could counter.


77 posted on 09/15/2014 9:54:03 PM PDT by superfries
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To: SeekAndFind

What do you do for a living? What is your skill set?


78 posted on 09/15/2014 9:55:33 PM PDT by superfries
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To: Perdogg

Thanks for the tip.. I was close with electrician. He is working on being a paramedic... Loves people. With the medical field plummeting to hades, I am trying to re- track him. I will have his Grandpa talk to him about it. I am thinking he could be an electrician and a volunteer with the rescue squad or something.. A reliable good paying job and get his people fix in.


79 posted on 09/16/2014 2:02:03 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: momincombatboots

An engineer with people skills? He would be a rare bird indeed.


80 posted on 09/16/2014 10:46:50 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (You all can go to hell, I'm going to Texas.)
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