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Tortured in Ukraine: Christians Living a Nightmare
cbn.com ^ | September 15, 2014 | George Thomas

Posted on 09/15/2014 1:17:32 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

EASTERN UKRAINE- Ukraine's evangelical Christians are bearing the brunt of the country's conflict, often with deadly consequences.

It's a scene that has played in Elena Velichko's head over and over. Pro-Russian rebels took over her hometown in early April. Her husband Vladimir told her to take the kids and leave the city.

"He took us to the train station and we said goodbye. He said, 'I love you.' He kissed me and kissed the children and left," Elena said.

Several days later, her life and that of her eight children, ages 2 to 16, suddenly turned upside down.

Surreal Reality

It was June 8, Pentecost Sunday. The church was half empty. That's because the city was under tremendous assault by both the pro-Russian separatists and the Ukrainian army.

Once the church service ended everybody made their way to the front of the church to go home.

But then the unimaginable happened.

"The church called and said my husband, along with three other believers, had been taken by men who were waiting outside the church," Elena said.

Alexander Gayvoronski, a church deacon, was there that Sunday morning.

"The men wore masks and had machine guns. They told the four Christian men to get into their cars," Gayvoronsi said.

The rebels took the pastor's sons, Ruvim and Albert Pavenko, Victor Brodarsky, and Elena's husband, Vladimir.

Multiple sources told CBN News what then happened to the four Christian captives.

First rebels took them outside the city and tortured them. The next day the men were put in car and told to drive away.

Then, minutes later they were recaptured and shot multiple times. Elena's husband was burned in the car.

"I don't hate my husband's killers. It is easy to start asking questions. Why did this happen? But if I keep thinking about this it will only wear me out," Elena said.

Christians Targeted

That same day rebels burned down the largest furniture factory that belonged to Ruvim and Albert Pavenko's father.

It had become clear rebels were targeting the city's evangelical community.

Sergey Demidovich, a top evangelical leader in Slavyansk, said Christians face constant threat.

"I never thought in the 21st century, in (a) free country as Ukraine, it was possible to experience this level of persecution," Demidovich said. "The separatists saw Protestant Christians as enemies. They viewed us as cults."

But the persecution was just getting started.

"All the Protestant churches in the city were either taken over by rebels or forced to close. We were forbidden to meet for services and the leadership forced to leave or be under risk of arrest," Demidovich said.

And the persecution is spreading far beyond just this city. Throughout the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, as rebels gain more territory, assaults against evangelicals are growing.

Two pastors told CBN News they were arrested and tortured for their faith.

"If I went to Donetsk today I would be arrested at the first checkpoint and put in jail," Oleg, a pastor from Donetsk, said. "The last time I was in prison they beat me up so badly, but I kept preaching the gospel and telling them to repent."

Unwavering Faith

Many believe the persecution is linked to pressure from the Russian Orthodox Church, and the pro-Russian rebels are only happy to do their bidding.

"When I was in prison, a rebel soldier told me they have an order to kill all the Christian pastors who are not part of the Russian Orthodox Church," Anatoly, a pastor from Luhansk, said.

While that has forced some to go underground, others are deciding to stay.

"Many heroes were born out of this conflict - men and women who are boldly sharing their faith and helping those caught in the war," Oleg said.

Elena Velichko said there's not a day that goes by that she doesn't think of that last goodbye, that final kiss she had with her husband at the train station.

But she is unwavering in her faith, trusting God to take care of her, the children, and Ukraine.

"People often ask me how I am doing. I tell them about a mighty God who can heal our hearts, maybe not as quickly as we would like it, but the process is going on and the prayers of people around the world help," Elena said.

"The biggest thing you can do for me is to pray for me and my family, about the future of my children and my country," she said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: christianpersecution
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1 posted on 09/15/2014 1:17:32 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Christians persecuting , torturing and murdering other Christians ? Why ? I cannot imagine this one


2 posted on 09/15/2014 1:24:35 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

The Russian Orthodox “Church” is run by the KGB which has murdered and persecuted Christians all over the world for decades. In the Putin tyranny, only the state-controlled church is allowed and all free churches are persecuted, just like in Communist China.


3 posted on 09/15/2014 1:30:29 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: LeoWindhorse

I cant wrap my head around this one either....


4 posted on 09/15/2014 1:30:39 PM PDT by Moleman
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To: Moleman

The Russian Orthodox Church is a “join us or die,” organization, like ISIS.


5 posted on 09/15/2014 1:32:22 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: LeoWindhorse

I’m not calling BS yet but it seems off to me too.
So many thugs in the area, its hard to know who to believe.


6 posted on 09/15/2014 1:33:27 PM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: DirtyPigpen
I’m not calling BS yet but it seems off to me too.

Because stupid people keep giving the image that Putin is some kind of a Christian hero, like Buchannon. Truth is the ROC's patriarch is a "former" KGB agent, and churches, not just Protestants, but Catholics too, are persecuted even in Russia proper. There is plenty of this to find on any website that catalogs Christian persecution by country.

7 posted on 09/15/2014 1:39:21 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Moleman

Problem is that some of our Russian-sympathetic FReepers have been presenting Vladimir Putin as some sort of “Hero of Christendom” when he is anything but. (And make no mistake, these goons are either his, or supplied by him).


8 posted on 09/15/2014 1:44:44 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“I don’t hate my husband’s killers”

Then you are as stupid as the day is long.


9 posted on 09/15/2014 1:48:28 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Yeah, with a quick search I found a lot of stuff about Ukrainian officials persecuting Christians too.

There is so much BS out there, hard to sort it all out. You have Putins thugs, Ukrainian thugs, tilted media.

Let’s just stay out of this one.


10 posted on 09/15/2014 1:50:30 PM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: 1rudeboy

Too bad the Ukrainian supporters won’t go over in person and help out. At the very least they could send money or even care packages.


11 posted on 09/15/2014 1:54:32 PM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

And still no word about Catholic Charities bring them to Maine. I guess white Christians need not apply to Catholic Charities of Maine.


12 posted on 09/15/2014 1:56:32 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (In an Oligarchy, the sers don't count.)
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To: DirtyPigpen

Let’s keep our argument to one thread. That way it will be easier to see which prong of the 4P Club you represent. (paleo/paultard/putinista/peacenik)


13 posted on 09/15/2014 1:57:06 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: DirtyPigpen
Yeah, with a quick search I found a lot of stuff about Ukrainian officials persecuting Christians too.

Okay, provide a link.

There is so much BS out there, hard to sort it all out. You have Putins thugs, Ukrainian thugs, tilted media.

The existence of Putin's thugs is a proven fact as a matter of policy and strategy for the Kremlin. It is not something you can dispute.

Let’s just stay out of this one.

Stay out of what? How does staying out of something change persecution of Christians by the Kremlin and its hired enforcers?

14 posted on 09/15/2014 1:59:41 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

American liberals dream of this day.

In America.


15 posted on 09/15/2014 2:02:36 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Here are two.

http://www.sconews.co.uk/news/34544/worsening-persecution-in-ukraine/

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ukraines-crackdown-singling-out-catholics-canadas-religious-freedom-envoy-says/article16505687/?service=mobile

I’m not doubting Putins thugs.

Why support any thugs?


16 posted on 09/15/2014 2:05:29 PM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: DirtyPigpen

Uhh, your links? One of the reasons that Kremlin goon lost his job and had to flee the country.


17 posted on 09/15/2014 2:09:18 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

“I guess white Christians need not apply to Catholic Charities of Maine.”

What the heck are you talking about? White Christians need not apply? What do you think Catholic Charities is chock full of. That’s right, white Christians. So white Christians need not apply to white Christians? Sounds like you have an axe to grind with Catholics. Right?


18 posted on 09/15/2014 2:16:55 PM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: DirtyPigpen
http://www.sconews.co.uk/news/34544/worsening-persecution-in-ukraine/

This link is from January 31st when Yanukovych, the Russian puppet, was still in the throes of torturing and beating people with the Berkut. Currently, the Ukrainians are fighting off the same people, who are not manifested in the "separatists," i.e. Russian soldiers and mercenaries.

Your second link is the same as the first.

Why support any thugs?

So far, you are talking about only Russkie thugs, not alleged evil Ukrainian thugs. There are certainly bad Ukrainians out there, but this is quite different from a few bad apples to a policy of persecution by those in charge.

19 posted on 09/15/2014 2:21:23 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: DirtyPigpen

Typo, whoops. Not = now, “who are NOW manifested by...” etc. is how it should have read.


20 posted on 09/15/2014 2:22:19 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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