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To: Talisker
"The complete collapse of our intelligence systems at every possible level"

As a partial list I submit the following as examples of the "collapse of our intelligence system":

Pearl Harbor Attack

The Korean invasion

The Entire Vietnam War

The Bay of Pigs Invasion

The Tet Offensive

The Yom Kippur War

The Iranian Revolution

The Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan

The Collapse of the Soviet Union

The Indian Nuclear Test

Iraq's invasion of Kuwait

Bombing of the World Trade Centre in 1993

The 9/11 Attacks

WMD in Iraq

Boston Marathon Bombing

("All is known, all is exposed to those involved." –?)

"so this mysterious enemy can pop off nukes with abandon and leave absolutely no tracks?"

I submit that it is self-evident that the blast itself will "leave absolutely no tracks." Certainly not tracks that can be investigated, analyzed, and effectively reacted to in time.

"… a mysterious enemy which never reveals itself "

The Internet demands come to multiple establishment networks "over the transom." Al Jazeera, for example, has little interest in tracking down the source. Who would be doing the tracking down? The Muslim brotherhood which has already penetrated the inner sanctum of the White House? We cannot dismiss the treachery possible from a fifth column.

"the eventual military response would be absolute,"

Any subsequent military response would be at the cost of another American city.

"That’s reality."

That "reality" has failed so many times that my back of the envelope list demonstrates that it is hardly reassuring and certainly not dispositive of what the collective inventive minds of a army of devious jihadist can contrive. If I am wrong life is sweet, but if you are wrong…

Please remember, this scenario is simply to illustrate the absolute necessity of preventing Iran from getting the bomb. This is only one of the baleful consequences which flow from that calamitous event. Others have been discussed such as the destruction of the present balance of power in the Persian Gulf and the ignition of the nuclear arms race in the Arab world. The point of the vanity is that we should not permit ourselves to be distracted from Iran to Isis.


51 posted on 09/13/2014 12:44:36 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
Please remember, this scenario is simply to illustrate the absolute necessity of preventing Iran from getting the bomb.

And if you are correct about the absolute, utter inability of our intelligence assets to find their @sses with both hands, how do you propose we do that? Or where are we going to find the will, since, according to you this country is mainly just waiting for the excuse to surrender anyway?

53 posted on 09/15/2014 3:20:27 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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