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Retired Marine Gen. John Allen to coordinate Iraq, Syria effort
Stars and Stripes ^ | Sep 11, 2014 | LOLITA C. BALDOR

Posted on 09/11/2014 8:04:46 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

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To: Vermont Lt

if anyone can do it , a Marine can pull it off

I’d rather see Jim Conway co-opted , but Allen will do


21 posted on 09/11/2014 9:39:39 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

Could it be possible to be a high-up Marine and not be a “political”? Methinks this is Kabuki at its finest.


22 posted on 09/11/2014 9:54:35 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Allen, who has been serving as a security adviser to Secretary of State John Kerry...

Our tax dollars at work.

23 posted on 09/11/2014 10:21:55 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
He's OK ,and not much more than that. I won't hold the mess that was Afghanistan to him because it was a mess well before he got there. it took special talent to make that mess at Bagram and Kabul.

He's not a Gen Mattis, but then again, most generals can't be Mattis. Damn shame. Mattis should be the mold for Marine generals. The Marine version of Patton.

The last remarkable General before Mattis was Peter Pace. Conway was no slouch either.

24 posted on 09/11/2014 10:48:35 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Correct.


25 posted on 09/11/2014 10:54:07 PM PDT by sport
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To: Salvavida

I met Jim Conway once , when he was the Com .
I was /am VERY impressed .
Wish he’d get back into it a bit


26 posted on 09/11/2014 10:55:22 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: ogen hal

Could it be possible to be a high-up Marine and not be a “political”? Methinks this is Kabuki at its finest.
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No one rises to a 4-star level, since the end of WWII, without playing the political game. This guy has been working for John F’ng Kerry, so we know his style of politics.

Just a couple of days ago I was reading that there were maybe six or seven mid-east Arab countries that MIGHT aid the US in the war on ISIS. ...How did the coalition country count suddenly grow to FORTY? I’m not buying that BS.


27 posted on 09/12/2014 2:01:12 AM PDT by octex
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To: Jet Jaguar

Well, this tells ma a TON about John Allen!! He must be a huge lefty.....sad.


28 posted on 09/12/2014 3:07:39 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Apparently not bothered by Prince Obie’s Afghanistan ROE or he wouldn’t still be associated with this administration. Period.

Probably why they chose a retiree instead of an active duty guy...

29 posted on 09/12/2014 4:37:14 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Has this ever been done before? I don’t understand why they want someone outside the normal chain of commands to oversee something linking directly to OdumBO.


30 posted on 09/12/2014 4:53:08 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Is he a transgender? That would seem to be an important trait of anyone retired from the military that is working for this administration.

And if he isn't, my apologies, but I am really fed up with the liberals.

31 posted on 09/12/2014 5:06:58 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfusbutcher)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I cannot believe Allen is doing this. From what I understand from my nephew who served under him in ‘stan back in (IIRC)’08, he was a soldiers soldier.

Does not sound like a person to go to bat for this group of misfits.........and traitors..


32 posted on 09/12/2014 5:38:11 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: gov_bean_ counter; Cicero
A lot of people don't recognize that Obama ended up with the same team in Afghanistan that Bush had in Iraq in 2007 and 2008: General Petraeus, General Allen, and Ambassador Ryan Crocker.

If you go back to 2007/08, Gen Allens job in Iraq was to try to shift the Sunni to supporting the central Iraq govt and he was successful. That is why Obama gave him the job in Afghanistan to shift the Taliban.

And this is why Obama gave him this job in Iraq. The main job in Iraq will be to convince the Sunni to abandon their support for ISIS.

As for the rules of engagement, those are found in Counterinsurgency Manual used by both the Army and Marines. Gen Petraeus had the manual rewritten and he hired Col John Nagl to rewrite it. Nagl was the Rhodes Scholar of Counterinsurgency. Petraeus wrote his college thesis on counterinsurgency. Nobody had used the old manual since VietNam.

33 posted on 09/12/2014 7:08:23 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Jet Jaguar; Ancient Wonderboy
"I do not know him"

See #33

34 posted on 09/12/2014 7:32:20 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: depressed in 06

If he’s going to be in charge, he should be recalled to active duty and given command of this mess. This appears to be running the war out of the State Department via an advisor.


35 posted on 09/12/2014 8:01:57 AM PDT by damper99
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That is precisely what it is, since we aren’t at war according to our esteemed strategerist, Jon Kerry.


36 posted on 09/12/2014 8:03:36 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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He can't come back because he(and Petraeus) were caught womanizing and forced to retire.

Commissioned officers(including retired) serve at the pleasure of the prez. Even after he was forced to retire, Obama kept him on as the top general in Afghanistan. He got that job when Petraeus moved up to CIA, and held it until the COIN mission ended in Afghanistan

37 posted on 09/12/2014 8:20:56 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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Since when did morality or lack thereof play into Obama’s decisions on anything? He’s deliberately sidestepping what is clearly a DoD function to save face from being a wartime _Resident.


38 posted on 09/12/2014 8:41:15 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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You can think or say whatever you want but most will say because of his experience working with the Sunni, he is the best man for the job.

Instead of being just another bitching, moaning, and whining rightwinger who wants to nukem, you ought to try to make the case for a different general who you think is better qualified.

39 posted on 09/12/2014 9:09:24 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Jet Jaguar

we need General Mattis for the troop morale...


40 posted on 09/12/2014 11:21:44 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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