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Britain, Germany: We won’t take part in Syria air strikes
Hotair ^ | 09/11/2014 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 09/11/2014 9:05:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Last night, Barack Obama promised America that he would take the fight to ISIS/ISIL, using a four-pronged strategy that he laid out in his much-anticipated war speech. In each phase of this strategy, Obama insisted, we would be “joined by a broad coalition of partners,” emphases mine:

First, we will conduct a systematic campaign of airstrikes against these terrorists. Working with the Iraqi government, we will expand our efforts beyond protecting our own people and humanitarian missions, so that we’re hitting ISIL targets as Iraqi forces go on offense. Moreover, I have made it clear that we will hunt down terrorists who threaten our country, wherever they are. That means I will not hesitate to take action against ISIL in Syria, as well as Iraq. This is a core principle of my presidency: if you threaten America, you will find no safe haven. …

This is our strategy. And in each of these four parts of our strategy, America will be joined by a broad coalition of partners. Already, allies are flying planes with us over Iraq; sending arms and assistance to Iraqi Security Forces and the Syrian opposition; sharing intelligence; and providing billions of dollars in humanitarian aid. Secretary Kerry was in Iraq today meeting with the new government and supporting their efforts to promote unity, and in the coming days he will travel across the Middle East and Europe to enlist more partners in this fight, especially Arab nations who can help mobilize Sunni communities in Iraq and Syria to drive these terrorists from their lands. This is American leadership at its best: we stand with people who fight for their own freedom; and we rally other nations on behalf of our common security and common humanity.

How broad? Well, at least on Phase One, our closest strategic ally is saying no thanks:

Britain’s foreign secretary says his country won’t participate in airstrikes on Syria, following an announcement from Washington that it would begin hitting targets inside the country.

Speaking Thursday after talks with his German counterpart Frank-Walter Steinmeier, Philip Hammond said Britain won’t be “revisiting” the issue after Parliament decided last year against participating in airstrikes.

For that matter, Germany has also demurred from Phase One as it relates to striking ISIS in Syria:

The foreign ministers of Germany and Britain said on Thursday they would not be taking part in air strikes in Syria against the Islamic State militant group.

German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier told a news conference in Berlin that Germany has not been asked to take part in the air strikes and would not be participating. “To quite clear, we have not been asked to do so and neither will we do so,” Steinmeier said.

I’m old enough to remember when not having France in the coalition was enough to discredit George W. Bush’s “coalition of the willing.” France has been at many times a balky ally, but Germany has been more consonant with American policy — and the UK practically our twin on global security. This sounds like a NATO split, which would come at a very bad time indeed for Europe as it faces a resurgent and aggressive Russian threat.

More to the point, though, what does this say about Obama’s strategic preparation? Did he bother to check in with the Brits and the Germans before pledging his “broad coalition of partners” last night? It would appear not, and that Obama just assumed that they would follow whatever plan he laid out last night. Obama could have framed the Syrian phase separately as a uniquely American security concern and set expectations properly. Instead, it looks as though Obama and his political team wrote a speech without building the necessary commitment from allies to allow them to be part of a united front on global security.

And what does that say about the rest of Obama’s claims in the speech?

Of course, the Arab League pledged to confront ISIS militarily, financially, and economically, and could provide Obama with some claim to a “broad coalition” — assuming that they can be counted on to do more than talk. John Kerry is in Saudi Arabia pitching for more assistance today:

U.S. and Arab diplomats moved swiftly Thursday to rally military and financial backing for a wider international assault against Islamic State militants.

Following up on President Obama’s call to arms against the network that has laid claim to a third of the territory of Iraq and Syria, Secretary of State John F. Kerry was meeting here with diplomats from across the Middle East.

The group is considering expanded military help such as more bases for airstrikes and new Arab training initiatives for Syrian rebels fighting the Islamists as well as Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad.

The Saudis wanted the air strikes on Assad last year, and got angry when the US balked at the plan. Now we’re bombing ISIS rather than Assad, but Kerry still wants a quid pro quo, and will likely get something. But if he’s hoping for boots on the ground in Iraq and Syria to fight against ISIS, Kerry’s likely to come away disappointed, and boots on the ground is what will be needed to “roll back” the gains made by ISIS, another pledge in Obama’s speech last night.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; germany; obamaforeignpolicy; obamanewisisstrategy; obamanostrategy; syria; uk

1 posted on 09/11/2014 9:05:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I didnt figure the Krauts would... but the British?? really?


2 posted on 09/11/2014 9:09:51 AM PDT by wyowolf
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To: SeekAndFind
Going into Syria is insane. Invading a country cuz there's bad people there?? 'cept we don't know which are the bad people.

What's Obama's point?? How do you say "we didn't kill any innocents" because that would be a load of crap.

3 posted on 09/11/2014 9:10:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

After the way The One has treated Britain and Germany, I’m not surprised they told him to eff off.


4 posted on 09/11/2014 9:11:01 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: wyowolf

Would you join a kinetic overseas operation with El Baracko as your leader? How much confidence would you have that the policy is driven by anything more than overnight polling, and will not change in 48 hours, or will be effectively pursued?


5 posted on 09/11/2014 9:13:47 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: chessplayer

Yep. That’s what happens when you “dis” your allies.


6 posted on 09/11/2014 9:14:27 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: SeekAndFind

The “Obama” coalition that never was....falls apart....on the first day!!! If you folks think the Middle East countries are putting their boots on the ground....you are as insane as Obama is!!! The solution for the USA with ISIS, is for the Democrat Party to march down to the White House and demand that POTUS Obama resign immediately, and if he does not, then the Demopcrat Party should move to impeach him!!!

Read my lips, Folks....Obama will not move to protect the USA in the true manner that the protection is required!!! You have have been had and lied to once again...and sadly, innocent Americans will suffer for Obama’s adoration for his Muslim Brotherhood, terrorist Ilk!!! Vote against every single Democrat this coming November, 2014 election and fully destroy the entire Democrat Party politically!!!


7 posted on 09/11/2014 9:14:27 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where was the condemnation when Obama and Hillary had a POW named Momar Gaddafi tortured, abused, and murdered?


8 posted on 09/11/2014 9:26:29 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Hey Obama: If Islamic State is not Islamic, then why did you give Osama Bin Laden a muslim funeral?)
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To: Sacajaweau

Now we are again bombing a sovereign country without even declaring war on it. That is why the UK and Germany are taking a pass. The best we can do is help run ISIS out of Iraq.

Further arming the Syrian rebels is insane. Well its not insane if you are trying to promote the caliphate in the Mideast as all these rebellions end up in a new govt of sharia law.


9 posted on 09/11/2014 9:26:49 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder if valjar is surprised to see the lack of help on this? Then again all this is kabuki theater to keep isis out of the headlines until after the mid-terms I think.


10 posted on 09/11/2014 9:28:52 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: SeekAndFind

Neither will Turkey

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/09/breaking-turkey-refuses-obama-request-to-use-its-airbases-to-fight-isis/


11 posted on 09/11/2014 9:32:00 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: SeekAndFind

Didn’t John F’n Kerry just lay out aug. 29 in the NYT how a broad coalition needs to help the USA in defeating the Islamic State? If he can’t get Britain and Germany to get in the kid obama’s trundle-bed and share blankies - then why even pretend? First NO will, then NO strategy and now NO coalition building. Great job dhimmicrats. Superb.


12 posted on 09/11/2014 9:34:32 AM PDT by februus
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To: wyowolf

He sent back the Churchill bust. They are responding in kind.


13 posted on 09/11/2014 9:39:53 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: SeekAndFind
leading from behind photo: Leading From Behind LeadingFromBehind1.jpg Mebbe the optics were't clear. He's just a warmonger, boasting about the people he has killed? Or it's Bush's fault. Or once again we simply misunderstood or he didn't explain it right. But the problem with leading from the rear is, it isn't really "leading" is it? (Unless you're in a bathhouse.)
14 posted on 09/11/2014 9:41:29 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, the Libya thingy worked out so well.


15 posted on 09/11/2014 9:45:28 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, if Estonia is the only one that joins us, the media will still fall all over themselves praising The One’s Magnificent Coalition.


16 posted on 09/11/2014 10:37:49 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: SeekAndFind

We should not be arming Syrian “rebels”, they are ISIS. I think they have already armed Syrian rebels behind our backs and are looking for an excuse to explain how all that got into ISIS hands.

We should also stay out of Syria because there still is no side to be supportive of that can be trusted.


17 posted on 09/11/2014 10:42:42 AM PDT by dforest
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To: wyowolf

The United Kingdom is facing an existiental threat next week when the Scots go to the polls to vote for independence, and polls are too close to call. One of the sticking points is disillusionment with the ‘illegal’ wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, so now is not the right time to be following the US into controversial wars.


18 posted on 09/11/2014 10:56:45 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: SeekAndFind

Germans have economic ties with Syrians... Surprize surprize, Baathism is inspired from German socialism...


19 posted on 09/11/2014 10:58:29 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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