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Sorry Mr. President, ISIS Is 100 Percent Islamic
National Review ^ | 09/11/2014 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 09/11/2014 8:06:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In a televised address on how to address the Islamic State this evening, President Barack Obama declared the organization variously known as ISIS or ISIL to be “not Islamic.”

In making this preposterous claim, Obama joins his two immediate predecessors in pronouncing on what is not Islamic. Bill Clinton called the Taliban treatment of women and children “a terrible perversion of Islam.” George W. Bush deemed that 9/11 and other acts of violence against innocents “violate the fundamental tenets of the Islamic faith.”

None of the three has any basis for such assertions. To state the obvious: As non-Muslims and politicians, rather than Muslims and scholars, they are in no position to declare what is Islamic and what is not. As Bernard Lewis, a leading American authority of Islam, notes: “It is surely presumptuous for those who are not Muslims to say what is orthodox and what is heretical in Islam.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: isis; isisisislamic; islam; islamicisis; obamaisisspeech
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To: holden

I pretty much agree with what you have said there. This is not a religion. It is a death cult. Lying isn’t a problem for people who think the behaviors exhibited by terrorists are reasoned. Even if one doesn’t buy into that description, the fact that he buys into Islam at all, with it’s sordid traits, reveals a severely flawed person on the face of it.


61 posted on 09/11/2014 9:45:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Great book! He must have written that during a golfing vacation.


62 posted on 09/11/2014 9:48:16 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation leads to ... FORE!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Our infirmative-action president never sees the words prepared for him by an incompetent idealist staffer until they appear on the teleprompter.

In this instance, I wouldn't be surprised that he would defend "his" statement (understanding there's a cosmologically remote chance he will ever be asked to explain "his" words).

63 posted on 09/11/2014 9:51:42 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: OwenKellogg

“Great book! He must have written that during a golfing vacation.”

He couldn’t write a paragraph let alone a book.

So one of his ghost writers had to write it. :)


64 posted on 09/11/2014 9:57:44 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Our Sunni White house wasn't surprised at the beheadings. They are surprised at the outcry.)
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To: SeekAndFind
America can do more to answer Islam in a firm way. A military response is called for, but inadequate. Calling them out and pointing out their bad actions is useful. For that, we can thank people like Robert Spencer, Daniel Pipes and Geert Wilders, who have done so at GREAT personal sacrifice.

There is more. We should try to make the whole world, including those trapped in Islam, aware of Islam's errors. How many know the Quran well enough to address its many errors? How many freedom loving people speak and write Arabic well? We not only need translators but also apologists. People living under Islam's thumb are not free to live free, to speak their minds, to explore the options. Many millions of people, crushed under its dead weight, especially women and children,long for freedom. What are we offering them for a road out? We need more patriotic Americans who know this religion/death cult well enough to answer and point out the mistakes. Only when a majority know what sharia is, for example, are we going to be able to restrict its slow spread through our society. Until most people KNOW it is a freedom-destroying criminal cult, it will be protected under “freedom of religion” laws.

65 posted on 09/11/2014 10:04:56 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: Missouri gal

Every criticism of Islam should include a quote from the Koran showing that the evil being done is following a precept of the “religion”


66 posted on 09/11/2014 10:07:52 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: SeekAndFind

67 posted on 09/11/2014 10:09:56 AM PDT by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box then 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: Starboard

The ‘happy’ part of Islam is where each man can have four wives.

The violent part of Islam is the part that must destroy the 75% of surplus men who can’t have a wife, children, or a life...

Muslim incentives create a need for permanent war.

Mohammad devised a self correcting system... down to rules on killing ‘the enemy’ and being allowed to rape captured wives and children. Mohammad knew foreign groups would step-in and kill Islams ‘surplus’ men. Do the ‘dirty work’ for Islam. It’s an evil system - and all of it is Islamic. The sweet part, the not so sweet, and the evil... all part of one system.

ISIS is one side of the coin.


68 posted on 09/11/2014 10:20:21 AM PDT by GOPJ ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: rovenstinez

The ‘happy’ part of Islam is where each man can have four wives.

The violent part of Islam is the part that must destroy the 75% of surplus men created by the ‘happy’ part... men who can’t have a wife, children, or a life...forever.

Muslim incentives create a need for permanent war.

Mohammad’s system is self correcting... down to rules on killing ‘the enemy’ and being allowed to rape the captured wives and children of ‘the enemy’.

Mohammad knew foreign groups would step-in and kill Islams ‘surplus’ men. Do the ‘dirty work’ for Islam. It’s an evil system - and all of it is Islamic. The sweet part, the not so sweet, and the evil... all part of one system.

ISIS is one side of the ‘correcting’ coin. We’re the other side.


69 posted on 09/11/2014 10:23:43 AM PDT by GOPJ ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: hinckley buzzard
The Christians of Mosul thought their neighbors, with whom they had lived in harmony for generations, were all decent moslems. And they were, right up until they weren't, and willingly betrayed their Christian neighbors to the murderers of ISIS.

Dead on.

70 posted on 09/11/2014 10:27:27 AM PDT by marron
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To: GOPJ

“The ‘happy’ part of Islam is where each man can have four wives.”

The ‘happy’ part of Islam is where each man can have temporary marriages.


71 posted on 09/11/2014 10:28:34 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: SeekAndFind

That is kind of like saying that the Irish Republican Army is not Irish.

Such nonsense.


72 posted on 09/11/2014 11:33:01 AM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: ifinnegan

——. KKK wasn’t/isn’t Christian.——

The KKK certainly does claim to be a Christian organization....

Their actions and beliefs certainly are not Christ like.... But they most certainly claim to be Christian based....


73 posted on 09/11/2014 5:37:12 PM PDT by Popman (Jesus Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: DoughtyOne
While you're quite right to brand Islam as a death cult, from the inside, I imagine it's very difficult to distinguish religion from death cult, when all those around you do such a replete job of pretending theirs is a religion, with its very own, unique "Allah" (Satan, Prince of This World) and presumed equal-if-not-greater standing with the world's great religions.

For that reason, it seems to me the reverence and fervor that Islam's adherents bring to their death cult they would completely ascribe to "their religion." Indeed, virtually all the world's dictionary definitions of religion would side with considering Islam to be a religion.

Though I agree with you and see its adherents as fundamentally and inherently flawed with respect to the true God, our NT scripture (Jas. 1:27) calls pure and undefiled religion: "to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world."

I'm sure millions of Muslims care for and visit orphans and widows in their distress, while being oblivious to the mass-delusional, vile and worldly stain Muhammed promulgated onto his followers and slaves and was able to perpetuate through his writings and its submissive adherents, down through the centuries.

I would understand that God has had His Hand in the mass delusion of these lost creatures and though Mohammed and the Prince of This World surely meant Islam for evil onto God's chosen and elect, God causes all things to work together for good to those who love Him, to those who are called according to His purpose. (Rom. 8:28)

HF

74 posted on 09/12/2014 6:26:22 PM PDT by holden
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