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Obama: "ISIL Is Not Islamic" (Is He Smoking Weed Again?)
Real Clear Politics ^ | September 10 2014 | Posted By Ian Schwartz

Posted on 09/11/2014 4:49:50 AM PDT by sr4402

And one of those groups is ISIL -- which calls itself the “Islamic State.”

Now let’s make two things clear: ISIL is not “Islamic.”

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To: sr4402
nobama: "No religion condones the killing of innocents."

I guess Islam isn't a religion then as its holy book instructs, "Kill the Infidels where you find them." And an Infidel is someone who will not swear allegiance to Allah. nobama is laying down the Taqiyya mighty thick. He is not to be believed.

21 posted on 09/11/2014 5:09:48 AM PDT by upchuck (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care.)
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To: sr4402

You have to remember that Obama is the president of the PLO - the Pathological Liars O-nonymous!

LOL!


22 posted on 09/11/2014 5:11:10 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: sr4402

In an ideal sense, it’s not like it really matters anyway. Whether or not ISIS is really “Islamic” or they’re just “hijacking” Islam for other ends is irrelevant from a political perspective. It’s their actions, not their beliefs, that really matter, and that’s what needs to be addressed.

Now, that does mean, from a political sense, that it is prudent to say things like “we aren’t at war with Islam, but rather against group X because of actions Y and Z” if for no other reason than to contain the focus of your activities to the matter at hand and not invite the opportunity to be drawn into a wide-ranging, multi-front conflict. You also want to place pressure on those organizations that would normally align with your target into allowing the target to be isolated. So, there’s value there.

But playing armchair theologian is dumb. Telling people that you know their beliefs better than they do is condescending and counter-productive. Especially when it’s an obvious like like “The Islamic State is not Islamic” (or, in Obama’s case, “my fellow Americans”).

A much better statement would be something like, “when we oppose the group that calls itself the ‘Islamic State’, it is just that: opposition to a group. It is not a conflict with an entire religion, and we call on those who believe Islam to be a peaceful and tolerant religion to stand with us and deny any aid or support to these murderous thugs.” It’s politic and allows self-styled “moderate” Muslims to save face by giving them the “peaceful and tolerant” hook as an excuse to distance themselves from IS.


23 posted on 09/11/2014 5:12:52 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: ThomasMore

He isn’t delusional. He is Muslim and that’s trumps everything else.


24 posted on 09/11/2014 5:13:34 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: txrefugee

Too bad not enough of any who might care (which admittedly could be none of them) didn’t realize it sooner than that, like when he said to George Stephanopoulos in his first White House campaign “my Muslim Faith”, and Georgie-boy helpfully corrected him to recall that he meant “my Christian faith”.


25 posted on 09/11/2014 5:14:25 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: odawg
He kept saying America in lieu of The United States. It was annoying.

The speech was nuts.

As far as Syria: Who's the enemy?? Why is Assad silent?

And I'm pissed because he said HE was responsible for getting rid of Syria's WMD.

BS....The whole speech was BS.

26 posted on 09/11/2014 5:14:53 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: sr4402
bammy, lying or dangerously ignorant and ill-informed again.

Well bammy, those fun guys and gals in ISIS/ISIL whatever you want to call them... (and bammy, don't think we haven't noticed you call them ISIL, giving them greater domain than the ISIS moniker) As I was saying bammy - they sure think they represent Islam. Apparently a whole lot of other Muslims not directly participating in ISIS' barbarism nevertheless seem to think ISIS represent Islam and are doing allah's work...

So here's the cold hard truth bammy, and I know this is going to come as a shock, the world does not in fact revolve around you. It doesn't matter what you think, believe, or lie about. The ISIS Muslim barbarians are going to go right on killing. Islam has made it pretty clear over the last 13 years. The only way to stop the killing is to kill them first. Sad? Yes. Brutal? Yes. But all those idiotic "Coexist" bumper stickers you see? Fantasy. Islam has demonstrated plainly, loudly, and bloodily that there is no coexistence with it.

Personally I will never trust a Muslim. Ever. There is absolutely nothing they could do or say, individually or as a group, to ever regain my trust. That's what 9/11 and 13 years of blood have taught me.

27 posted on 09/11/2014 5:17:00 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: sport

Well,...... no.

Reading lacking understanding creates problems. Do you have rattle snakes in your Sunday Services? Apparently it’s in the book.


28 posted on 09/11/2014 5:18:07 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: logic101.net
Maybe they are Baptist?

Do Baptists kill people for leaving their faith? No.

Do Baptists teach people to kill infidels? No.

Do Baptists 'Honor Kill' their children when they do not date properly? No. So are they Baptists?

I don't think so!

29 posted on 09/11/2014 5:18:13 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402

Perhaps you should read up on the Mormon persecutions of old and right here


30 posted on 09/11/2014 5:19:18 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Travis McGee

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/10/us-syria-crisis-un-idUSKBN0H50OM20140910


31 posted on 09/11/2014 5:19:32 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: sr4402

The Catholic Archdiocese of New York is not Catholic!


32 posted on 09/11/2014 5:20:42 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: bert
Perhaps you should read up on the Mormon persecutions of old and right here

That's Mormonism, not Christianity.

33 posted on 09/11/2014 5:22:39 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402

Obama: “ISIL Is Not Islamic”

Isaiah 5:20
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.


34 posted on 09/11/2014 5:22:55 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: sr4402

“ISIL is not Islamic. Not even a smidgen.”


35 posted on 09/11/2014 5:24:06 AM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: sr4402

I trust the Mullahs and Imams to tell me if ISIS is Islamic, and so far they all say that’s the case.

Not sure how the president thinks otherwise...and considering that claims to NOT be a Muslim, I don’t see how he could comment either way.


36 posted on 09/11/2014 5:25:31 AM PDT by BobL (Don't forget - Today's Russians learn math WITHOUT calculators.)
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To: sr4402

Spoken like the enemy islamist he is.


37 posted on 09/11/2014 5:27:19 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: bert
The statement was exclusive like saying snake handlers and poison drinkers are not Christian. Such believers are excluded from the main. All here would be very offended if asked if they were really Christian because there were no snake handling as part of their Sunday services. Thus, radical wackos are excluded from Islam."

Utter bull$#!+ and rubbish. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has a PhD in Islamic Studies, do you? Does Obama? To compare ISIS, (which is following the Koran, Hadith and Sunna to the letter, as devout Muslims across the Ummah have done for 1,400 years), to Christian "snake handlers" reveals your ignorance.

38 posted on 09/11/2014 5:27:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ThunderSleeps
The only way to stop the killing is to kill them first.

Nope. They believe they will get 72 virgins each if they kill Infidels in Jihad.

No, the way to stop the Jihadist is to wrap them in pork and hang them and any one slain in Jihad is bury them wrapped the same way.

In their eyes this prevents them from entering heaven and leaves them in ...

39 posted on 09/11/2014 5:28:15 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: Travis McGee

I would argue that to extrapolate the radical views of those you noted to all of Islam is illustrative of true ignorance.


40 posted on 09/11/2014 5:32:17 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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