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California charges ahead with electric vehicles
Santa Cruz Sentinel ^ | 09/08/2014 | Dana Hull

Posted on 09/09/2014 7:47:48 AM PDT by artichokegrower

California has sold more than 100,000 plug-in vehicles in less than four years, a major milestone that cements the Golden State as the global leader of plug-in hybrid and electric cars.

(Excerpt) Read more at santacruzsentinel.com ...


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There are 13 million registered vehicles in California. If 103,000 are electric then electric cars make up 0.008% of the total vehicle number. For that green house gas reduction potential California taxpayer have given out a $2,500 subsidy and US taxpayers have provided an additional $7,500 subsidy.

"Rebates totaling $149 million have already been awarded to more than 71,000 individual California residents, according to the Center for Sustainable Energy"

Using the 71,000 number and not the 103,000 total that comes to a $149 million California subsidy and a $532 million federal subsidy. All to get 0.008% of the gas or diesel powered vehicles off of California's highways and replace them with electric cars that get their recharge power only from windmills and solar farms.

1 posted on 09/09/2014 7:47:48 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Coal burning cars suck.


2 posted on 09/09/2014 7:48:57 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: artichokegrower

It’s gonna be so fun watching the results when CA runs out of electricity - which, thanks to progressive inability to understand even the most basic science - will occur in the not to distant future.


3 posted on 09/09/2014 7:49:48 AM PDT by Da Coyote (00)
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The real “major milestone” is going to come when they stop receiving subsidies for owning this junk and have to start paying for the electricity required to recharge them under Obama’s higher electrical rates. Good luck California!


4 posted on 09/09/2014 7:52:08 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't just stand there! Help fight political correctness!)
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To: artichokegrower

I see Teslas everywhere in the SF bay area. For me, buying one would constitute a boy toy.


5 posted on 09/09/2014 7:52:59 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: artichokegrower

I would actually like to have such a car if they could indeed get it to perform as advertised but I’m beginning to suspect they are years from that happening.


6 posted on 09/09/2014 7:54:53 AM PDT by ontap
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7 posted on 09/09/2014 7:57:04 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: ontap

A friend of mine bought a FiAT 500 electric and complains about 100 mile range limitation that has him always anxious about running out of juice...then when he charges up..the cost of electricity from whatever coal plant he gets the power from.

Sounds like a terrible investment to me...all those batteries also are an environmental hazard. I’ll go with clean diesel or a motorcycle.


8 posted on 09/09/2014 7:58:37 AM PDT by gwgn02
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To: artichokegrower

It’s .8% (8/10 of 1 percent), not .008%.


9 posted on 09/09/2014 7:58:55 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yep - they better start up some more of the coal plants Obama has shut down, and quick! I wonder if any of these drivers could tell you where electricity comes from - and”the wall” is not an acceptable answer.


10 posted on 09/09/2014 8:02:53 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: artichokegrower

Had a Prius owner try to sideswipe me repeatedly on the highway the other day.
He was upset, apparently, that I had a V6.
He finally decided I was looking angry enough to let him hit me before yanking him out of his little tinfoil coffin and tried to floor it.
Those things really can’t accelerate well.
And that’s a hybrid!
I can’t imagine the attitudinal driving of electric owners and what THAT will be like.


11 posted on 09/09/2014 8:03:11 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee! First one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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to post 2.

not in my opinion.

I think coal burning cars are wonderful.

no Arabs. no Exxon. whats not to like!


12 posted on 09/09/2014 8:09:09 AM PDT by RockyTx
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According to the California Department Of Motor Vehicles, as of December 2013 there were 32,903,847 motor vehicles registered in the state.

So 100,000 electric vehicles equals .003 percent (3/1000) of the total registered vehicles in the state.

Because of the limited range of electric vehicles they will represent an even smaller percent of the miles driven in the state.

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"A liberal is someone who thinks he knows more about your experience than you do."


13 posted on 09/09/2014 8:10:31 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("If you want to test a man's character, give him power." -- Abraham Lincoln)
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How much electricity does california generate vs. what it buys from other states? What is california going to do when Arizona, Nevada, and Oregon stop selling them electricity? California wrecked its own power generation industry at the behest of their tree-huggers, and then they try to wreck those same industries in the surrounding states.

News flash for california: we can just as easily cut the power lines into your state, and not have to deal with your insanity anymore, and come out better as a result.

Of course you can always buy electricity from mexico, and you could probably get it subsidized, seeing as how a quarter of mexico is currently squatting in california, and the state is perfectly fine with that.

14 posted on 09/09/2014 8:18:53 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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“So 100,000 electric vehicles equals .003 percent (3/1000) of the total registered vehicles in the state.”

Check your math. 3% = 3/100. .3% = 3/1000.


15 posted on 09/09/2014 8:25:04 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: RockyTx

Understand your point. But it’s ironic that taxpayer subsidized electric cars are supposed to help save the planet according to the Green/Reds who are targeting the coal industry that provides 40% of our electricity while killing the planet.


16 posted on 09/09/2014 8:26:34 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Darksheare

As we used to say in the Navy, “the law of gross tonnage always applies.”


17 posted on 09/09/2014 8:28:41 AM PDT by Pecos (That government governs best which governs least..)
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I’d pay good money to watch an electric driver argue it out with a truck on the highway.
A “pass the popcorn” moment if ever here were one.


18 posted on 09/09/2014 8:29:57 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee! First one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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“Those things really can’t accelerate well.
And that’s a hybrid!
I can’t imagine the attitudinal driving of electric owners and what THAT will be like.”

The Tesla S sedan 0-60 is 4.2 seconds ....


19 posted on 09/09/2014 8:30:51 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: gwgn02

A conservative friend has the misfortune of having an adult left wing enviro daughter.

She and her left wing husband live in Gay Francisco and bought a Fiat electric.

Then, they planned to drive this abortion on wheels to Taos, NM for some artsy *artsy event.

I asked my friend how many miles per charge they actually got.

His reply 60-70 miles.

I asked him if they had 30 days each way to make the trip.

He said he and his wife tried to explain that reality to his brilliant daughter and equal brain power. They said that Fiat had sent them a map of where to charge their Fiat.

They never made it from Gay Frisco to LA, before they gave up and returned. The aborted trip took a little over 6 days.


20 posted on 09/09/2014 8:31:29 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Holder & his black racist thugs have started another Black Washing in Ferguson.)
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