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Obama reforms should allow tech companies to hire key talent
San Jose Mercury ^ | 09/05/2014 | Peter Muller

Posted on 09/07/2014 9:17:48 AM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: artichokegrower

Ted Cruz also supports an increase in H1B visas for tech stars but it is presented much more realistically as a benefit to the United States more than anything Obama’s people concoct which you can bet is geared to create illegal democrat voters.

And I agree with Cruz, why?

Look at it from the view of sports. If a team can find a superstar in a foreign country, they will pull out all the stops to bring that star to the USA to make their team more competitive.

There is nothing wrong with the pool of US talent but look at it as a market for talent.

Say there are ten million abnormally high IQ persons in the world including the USA. You can bet that about half of them are homegrown in the USA. And a sizable portion are found in Russia, Eastern Europe, India, China etc.

If we can grab a good portion of the 5 million or so of these foreign grown super brains so that we control the market of talent, then we are the top competitors and the Russians, Chinese and others lose. It’s that simple.

To get the controlling market share of brains we need to maintain and enhance our image as the place that foreigners want to be. Even with Obama and his sick socialist sycophants, and their lapdog media, America is still the greatest place on Earth to most of the rest of the world’s population. And we need to increase the reality of that for the very best and brightest in the market of brains.

So before we jump on the close the borders bandwagon which I am in agreement with, remember that super brains are an asset to any nation and we should have the lion’s share of all of it only if we deserve it as a nation; do we?


21 posted on 09/07/2014 9:52:34 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: artichokegrower

I work for a large tech company in the Pacific Northwest of the United States. The population of the floor of my building now looks more like downtown Beijing than what you would expect for an American company. I am literally now the only native English speaker on the floor. And I tell you what, the Chinese here are only hiring Chinese. I’m not saying it’s some sort of racism - it’s human nature to want to hire people who speak your language natively, and perhaps these are people they new in college, etc. Nonetheless, it is a significant concern when native citizens of a country are at a hiring disadvantage over foreigners.


22 posted on 09/07/2014 9:55:06 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: Jim from C-Town
The U.S. higher education system produces talented graduates who are sought by companies in the technology and life sciences industries, but because many of those graduates are foreign born they cannot work here without visas.
Wonder why so many UC graduates are foreign nationals? Admission rates fall at UC campuses as international presence grows http://www.sacbee.com/2014/04/18/6336387/admission-rates-fall-at-uc-campuses.html
23 posted on 09/07/2014 9:55:24 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

I just saw that there are now 92,000,000 unemployed Americans.

A brand new, all-time high.

Why are we worried about hiring more immigrants?


24 posted on 09/07/2014 9:58:14 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Scutter

What you see is not racism but clustering and it is illegal as a form of discrimination. The Chinese are not the only ones that do it, people from India are notorious for clustering.

This is an abuse of the H1B system that reveals lax government controls which should not surprise anyone.

The purpose of the H1B was to grab those that are genetically profoundly smart, like Einsteins and Von Brauns. Such people exist and are born in each generation as genetic anomalies including inside the USA. Further, there are millions of accomplished scientists and engineers with track records of publications and products that become known to competing American corporations and those corporations need to grab that talent without the government getting in the way.


25 posted on 09/07/2014 10:02:26 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I just saw that there are now 92,000,000 unemployed Americans.... Why are we worried about hiring more immigrants?

Because too many of the eligible workers believe in traditional marriage and/or sometimes vote Republican.

26 posted on 09/07/2014 10:04:05 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Joan Rivers -- "giving 'em hell" in heaven.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

This is about H1B not border insurgencies.

But H1B to a democrat is a far cry from an H1B to a Ted Cruz republican.

Note that not all H1Bs are the same.


27 posted on 09/07/2014 10:04:57 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: artichokegrower

These employers want cheap talent. Plenty of American
citizens have the skills, but expect pay commensurate
with experience. I’m covering for 9 vacant openings,
working 50 to 70 hours to meet commitments to the
customer because cleared candidates with the necessary
skills aren’t available in the salary range my boss is
willing to pay. Now I’m too expensive. I’m being pushed
into a part time status with 12 hours a week...nothing
guaranteed. The place will be like a house full of dogs
with a big bowl of food and water and left completely
unattended.


28 posted on 09/07/2014 10:12:05 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: artichokegrower

To all of tech, IT, and programmers out there: Welcome to the club.

All of you will join all of the other displaced workers in the majority of former industrial and manufacturing fields.

Silicon valley is poised to become the new rust-belt of the west coast. If someone on another continent can do your job for a fraction of what you make, you are as good as a buggy whip maker in the current labor market. And I don’t care how good you are, because all the shareholders care about is the fact that someone else in the world will do it cheaper than you.

Illegals+H1b+outsourcing= profits. Once you understand this, you’ll know where you stand in this economy.


29 posted on 09/07/2014 10:17:49 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: thesharkboy

I’m in the defense industry. Software and hardware engineer.
I’ve been in it since 1980. Now I’m too expensive. As I
clear out my office Friday, I’m tempted to write “Who is
John Galt?” on my whiteboard.


30 posted on 09/07/2014 10:18:58 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

H1-B workers have an advantage over American citizen workers for an employer in that they do not have to register with Selective Service. If their is a national emergency the American workers could potentially get drafted causing a shortage in the workforce. Ironically they could come back from doing their service and end up working under the supervision of their exempt H1-B co-workers.


31 posted on 09/07/2014 10:20:32 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Ah, the H1B scam/lie.


32 posted on 09/07/2014 10:21:33 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Myrddin

The problem is, the jobs are going elsewhere.

The question isn’t “Who is John Galt?”.

The question is who is John Wang, and why did my company send my job to China?

(or elsewhere, but we have a huge problem right now with China making stuff which used to be made here.

China is always growing.

Companies who move production there, are actively helping the foreign powers who are growing ever stronger.

GOP get with it.

Stop sending US jobs to every other country.

Bring back US jobs.


33 posted on 09/07/2014 10:24:11 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: factoryrat

My company was once employee owned. We served the
customers and grew a strong company. The founding CEO
retired. The new CEO took the company public. Now we
serve the share holders instead of the customers. The
share holders are no longer exclusively the employee
owners. The scriptural adage about serving two masters
applies.


34 posted on 09/07/2014 10:31:42 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: artichokegrower; All
Thank you for referencing that article artichokegrower. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"... President Barack Obama will announce executive actions [emphasis added] ..."

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Beware of the authors of any articles and their "news" outlets who pass along the constitutionally meaningless, PC term executive order action. Such authors and the agencies that they work for are an example of the blind leading the blind imo.

35 posted on 09/07/2014 10:32:43 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: artichokegrower

A lot of American kids don’t learn math and other subjects needed to fill skilled jobs. There are a number of reasons; public schools don’t teach what is important, kids don’t know what is important to learn, etc. It’s much easier to get a degree in gender studies.


36 posted on 09/07/2014 10:42:41 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Iron Munro

I agree with your questioning, no need for “/s”.


37 posted on 09/07/2014 10:44:09 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: artichokegrower

So, exactly what American demographic would find it a good thing to invest the time and money to become an engineer or computer programmer or chemical engineer when they just got told they will compete against foreigners willing to work cheap?


38 posted on 09/07/2014 10:46:48 AM PDT by CodeToad (Romney is a raisin cookie looking for chocolate chip cookie votes.)
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To: Myrddin

I do agree.

Corporations once had a philosophy of corporate citizenship, putting customers and shareholders first, and fairly treating employees. The public companies are mostly run by hired hand CEO managers (not entrepreneurs) that risk anything. They typically get employment contracts with huge bennies and percs and job security that would make any union member (that CEOs all hate) envious. More often than not these contracts serve as a crutch to keep them well rewarded for incompetence all at shareholder, customer and employee expense.

The priorities in many public companies are mergers to justify CEO compensation increases, and conniving on short term ways to boost CEO bonuses based upon finagling options. It is not a priority to create long term benefits for the USA, shareholders and other stakeholders.


39 posted on 09/07/2014 10:48:22 AM PDT by apoliticalone
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To: ClearCase_guy

Every imported foreign educated worker only diminishes the value of the costly college education debt to American citizens. When the education loan bubble breaks it will be our immigration policy that served as a major prick. Our crooked greedy politician puppets of both Parties work for global corporate interests, not Americans.


40 posted on 09/07/2014 10:52:34 AM PDT by apoliticalone
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