Posted on 09/07/2014 5:02:44 AM PDT by Nextrush
Conservatives, on the other hand, don't want a non-constitutional, socialist, immoral centralized state. Progressives of both parties hate conservatives. That is why Boehner and McConnell fight so hard against conservatives and so softly against truly dangerous statists like Obama. They are on the same side as Obama, but are opposed to conservatives.
This charade has become more and more obvious with time, and was most clearly exposed in the last 4 years, when the Republican party was rewarded with an undeserved majority in the House by conservatives, and has done everything in its power to forfeit the victory since. Boehner's purpose seems to be to manage the majority in a way that does not harm Obama while awaiting the eventual return of Nancy Pelosi.
I may sometimes vote for Republicans, but I am actively looking for a way for conservatives to make the GOPe join their democrat brethren. We need a UKIP, and I am convinced that if we could get one going in the US, it would take off like wildfire, and make the GOP go the way of the dodo and the Whigs.
The first step is to never ever give one cent to Rove or any of his cohorts or to anyone that is going to help Rove.
Give directly to the candidate of your choice.
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In Canada when the Reform Party emerged in the 1990’s it was a bloodbath for the old “Progressive Conservative Party”. It was destroyed and marginalized, it never got more than a few seats ever again while the conservative third party got 40-60 seats consistently.
THIS MEANT THE LIBERALS RAN CANADA FOR OVER TEN YEARS, BUT CANADA DIDN’T DIE FROM IT.
In the end the big elites sued for peace and merged into the old third party and a new Conservative Party of Canada was formed.
Now that party has had power with Stephen Harper as PM for most of ten years.
Fear of the Democrats and portraying them as the reincarnation of Hitler or Stalin (Hitchens pointed out that’s what the Tories do to Labor in the UK) keeps grassroots conservatives at the teat of corruption. The cancer must be removed if we are to move forward.
Excellent points, but Canada also has a parliamentary system, which provides an entirely different dynamic for overthrowing the corrupt old posers with a fresh organization made up of true conservatives.
Harper and his party have been a Godsend to our northern neighbors, but duplicating that down here is likely to require a very different approach at the operational level.
There are posters here who attack the notion of voting for UKIP in the UK because that will allow the Labour Party to win.
So what.
The UK parliamentary system might have a quicker revolution than Canada did with its parliamentary system did if there is a shift to UKIP just like Canadians shifted to the Reform Party-Canadian Alliance in the 1990’s and early 2000’s.
Third parties can win things like governor’s offices for instance. Jesse Ventura did that in Minnesota. Third party indies can also win Senate seats like Joe Lieberman or Lisa Murkowski did.
It requires some organization and money to win as the third candidate.
In Pennsylvania where I live we had a special election for a State Senate seat earlier this year where the guy snubbed by the GOP machine ran as a write-in and won over the D and R candidates with 47 percent.
PA has election laws that make it tougher for third parties to get on the ballot, so a slate of write-ins may be the answer.
There is a leadership vacuum in this country right now and until its filled by something I will only vote GOP when their candidate is a real conservative. That means for the four offices I elect this November only one Republican gets my vote with the rest write-in for conservatives.
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