Posted on 09/05/2014 6:51:57 PM PDT by artichokegrower
*Kids* (teens) are taught to call 911 from the time they are very small.
There is no reason for them to not have thought of it.
It's hard (almost impossible) to cut that much slack.
But, if that is going to be the standard, then reducing the budget is required. No sense in paying for poor service from hired hands.
/johnny
Since all we have is the family’s version why don’t we wait until the trial so that we can find out what actually happened.
I don’t buy this story for one minute
Because they are gang members and many are ILLEGAL.... that part of San Jose is a sewer
That wasn’t in the article this thread linked to.
In addition, the race card is being played very heavily.
I'm glad you did right for him. Naysayers can pound sand.
/johnny
Of course they are, or at least appear to be control freaks. In reality, cops are responsible for the actions of just about everyone they come into contact with. When you do something irresponsible in the presence of a cop, and that cop doesn’t tell you to stop, and your actions result in you being seriously injured, or killed, that cop will most likely be sued for not stopping you. On top of that, the cop could very likely face disciplinary action from his department. Cops are sued at least as much for not doing something as they are for doing the wrong thing.
In the ER community this is known as “ home boy transport”, and is quite common. Lots of times they cruise up to the ER entrance and dump out the victim and take off. Interestingly in some studies done in the 80s home boy transport shooting victims had HIGHER surciv rates then when EMS was called and led to changes in EMS protocols to “ scoop and run” to get patients to a Trauma Center as quickly as possible..
Not in San Jose response times are good and Regional was close enough to where ‘the incident’ happened it would make more sense to call the ambulance since it is dispatched from near there
They didn’t call because they are gang members our and simple. IF they had made it to regional they would have dumped ‘their friend’ in the ER and left in a fat hurry. Then the taxpayer would have had to cover the very expensive cost of trying to save this thug
/johnny
I have lived in the sticks nearly all my life and we have to make tough decisions at times.
Did you read the article??? No you just want to slam the police. The facts will come out at trial including that the officer did call for emergency medical
That wasn’t in the article this thread linked to.
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It’s still one side of the story and the lawyer can pretty much lead or mislead the press any way he wants.
That wasn't put out by the family lawyers.
/johnny
They don't meet the county standard.
/johnny
I was outside a city ER one night when a car pulled up to the ER, car was full of kids that looked like gang bangers. They got girl out of car that was obviously in labor, couldn’t stand up to walk right she was so far along. As soon as they unloaded her and her bag they peeled out. I was stunned. I cannot imagine being friends and more with people that would treat you like that.
By the way we are on to people who call EMS with a minor complaint to cut the wait in the ER. We now triage them, and if the problem is minor you get sent to the waiting room to register and wait your turn.
And, don’t get me wrong, I am not making an excuse for the cops, but when you live in a society where everyone thinks someone else should be responsible for their mistakes, the government is going to try to insulate itself as much as possible. They are after all the deepest pockets. Ultimately, cops are under intense pressure to protect their employers.
Good point. Plus todays ambulances are mobile ER’s.
If ya think someone critical transported in vehicle pulling up to an ER entrance, is going to be sent to the waiting room, I don’t know what to say to you.
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It depends on the emergency and where you are. I saw someone with multiple fractures from a motorcycle accident have to wait. If you have chest pains and shortness of breath you’re going to be seen quickly, but not as fast as someone arriving with the paramedics. Plus, the paramedics can run an EKG, and maybe administer life saving drugs or shocks if necessary. Like you said, it’s a judgement call. A person should be familiar with their hospitals and their rules.
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