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Ukraine and pro-Russia rebels 'sign ceasefire deal'
BBC ^ | 5 September 2014 | Last updated at 09:23 ET | BBC

Posted on 09/05/2014 6:28:30 AM PDT by WhiskeyX

The Ukrainian government and pro-Russia rebels meeting in Minsk have signed a preliminary protocol to start a ceasefire, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko says.

He said that the truce would start at 14:00 GMT. The announcement came after reports of further clashes in the east.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: putinsbuttboys; russia; ukraine
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To: Robert357

Thanks for posting that! Had not heard of it. In response to Obama’s visit?


21 posted on 09/05/2014 9:02:33 AM PDT by donozark (The voices inside my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!)
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To: caww
Another reason Poroshenko wants a cease- fire now...more evidence Ukraine responsible for airlines crash continues to point they’re direction.

For more information, please contact the Kremlin.

22 posted on 09/05/2014 9:05:04 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Robert357

You should post that link as a new thread.


23 posted on 09/05/2014 9:13:54 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: 1rudeboy

“By Merc militias, you mean the ones on both sides, right?”

I mean the Kolomoisky militias.


24 posted on 09/05/2014 9:50:03 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: WhiskeyX

If the “ceasefire” actually stands, I expect a Maidan 2.0 in very short order, this time with guns.

IMO, The Ultra-nationalists won’t be happy.


25 posted on 09/05/2014 9:50:03 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: WhiskeyX

Kier Simmons, NBC News

Keir Simmons 2m
We’re close to the line between Ukrainian and pro Russian forces as the minutes count down to a ceasefire... the guns are silent.

https://twitter.com/KeirSimmons


26 posted on 09/05/2014 9:50:03 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: McGruff; All
Yesterday's "SitRep" map:
27 posted on 09/05/2014 9:50:03 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: WhiskeyX; All

ITV News:

Three explosions were heard in Donetsk minutes after a ceasefire agreed between Kiev and pro-Russian rebels went into force in Ukraine
SNIP-—

Before the truce was announced, Reuters reported shelling of the rebel stronghold of Donetsk that killed at least one woman and blew huge holes in residential buildings.
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-09-05/explosions-heard-minutes-into-ukraine-russia-ceasefire/


28 posted on 09/05/2014 9:50:03 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: WhiskeyX
First off, Putin's Russia has every intention of breaking up the Ukraine, despite this phony "ceasefire". The Russian terrorists and Russian soldiers fighting within Ukraine will simply be using this time to resupply and rearm with weapons and reinforcements and continue their push to destroy the Ukraine from within by causing the break up/federalization of Ukraine:

Ceasefire does not mean Kremlin-backed fighters give up course for separating from Ukraine - Plotnytsky

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/ceasefire-in-ukraine-not-meaning-kremlin-backed-fighters-give-up-course-for-separating-from-ukraine-plotnytsky-363534.html

Second: On top of this, Putin's Russia is in the process of planning a second front to invade in the south and push towards and through Odessa. Putin MUST do this in order to establish a "land bridge" connecting Russia with Crimea because as it presently stands it is impossible for Russia to maintain its annexation of Crimea without it because it Russia's capture and hold on the entire Crimean peninsula is TOTALLY UNSUSTAINABLE without it. In other words Putin has taken Crimea but Russia will not be able to hold onto it unless they are able to resupply and provide for the multitudes of people they have imprisoned there. Russia is totally incapable of providing for all of the needs of the inhabitants of Crimea by ships or by airplanes and Putin and the Kremlin know it. It would cost BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS of Rubles to construct a bridge over the Black Sea connecting Russia to Crimea, thus avoiding Ukraine altogether... Russia can't afford it and it is totally unfeasible... Putin and the Kremlin recognize this fact as well.

Russia's only solution to this very real dilemma and threat of losing the Crimea which Russia has just stolen is to do exactly what Hitler did 70 years ago when he captured Crimea: He invaded along the southern border of Ukraine and built a land bridge connecting the Russian territory Hitler had conquered with the Crimea, which his troops had previously taken. Hitler knew he couldn't hold onto this territory unless he did this and Putin knows this as well because Putin and the Kremlin are planning on doing the exact same thing; here is the proof:

Russia ready to open second front near Odessa

http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/09/05/russia-ready-to-open-second-front-near-odesa/

29 posted on 09/05/2014 10:00:38 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Deliver us from this evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: tcrlaf

Of course you did. I simply was wondering if you would take a stab at being “objective.”


30 posted on 09/05/2014 10:06:13 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: McGruff
>>>>>Russia has added to its wide boycott of some food imports by banning Ukrainian sweets.<<<<<<

Hitting Poroshenko where it hurts him personally, i.e. his wallet. He is chocolate mogul.

I'm surprised they did not boycott Heinz.

31 posted on 09/05/2014 11:27:59 AM PDT by DTA
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To: tcrlaf

So much for Putin’s phony ceasefire agreement. The Russians are engaged for the lst hour in an offensive in Vesela Hora with Russian artillery bombarding Shchastya. Meanwhile, Putin’s Minister of Foreign Affairs is already unilaterally denouncing the ceasefire as being invalid if NATO and the Ukraine move forward with the annual joint military training exercises in the Ukraine this month.


32 posted on 09/05/2014 2:53:42 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: 1rudeboy
Some just have an itch ..feel better?


33 posted on 09/05/2014 5:55:09 PM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf
Probably Komo'cow'ski....he's not going to listen to Kiev nor the Rebels nor Russia....he's creating much of the havoc left and right in Ukraine, especially when there's a cease fire......as long as his militias are fighting there there will be no cease fire of any duration.

Interesting map....


34 posted on 09/05/2014 7:03:08 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Russia's 2nd convoy, carrying 2,000 tons of humanitarian aid due in Eastern Ukraine tomorrow.


35 posted on 09/05/2014 7:07:41 PM PDT by caww
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To: WhiskeyX

Greasy kleptocrat Putin is getting away with stealing half of a neighboring country. Sad day for civilization. Happy one for FR’s Soviet Nostalgia Sauna Club.


36 posted on 09/05/2014 7:22:10 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: caww
However Poroshenko doesn’t control Merc. Battalions who are controlled by Kolomoiskiy, who is itching to undermine Poroshenko..... Same problem last time there was a cease fire...

Why do you always bring up your random Russkie anecdotes and then never provide sources for Freepers who don't live on Russia Today or Itar-Tass?

As for the problem "last time." The problem last time was that dozens of Ukrainians, supposedly violating the ceasefire, were killed by Russkies shooting at them constantly.

37 posted on 09/05/2014 8:13:13 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: caww
Interesting map....

You reveal your hand by posting it. Not only is it anti-NATO, it's misleading. NATO has been significantly cutting its military spending over the past 20 years. Russia has been invading countries, on the other hand, blaming its victims and NATO for why it has to do so.

38 posted on 09/05/2014 8:14:52 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: DTA
Hitting Poroshenko where it hurts him personally, i.e. his wallet. He is chocolate mogul.

Do they hate chocolate moguls on that anti-semite "Israel and the United States are the New world order!!!1!!!" website you post to?

Remember what you told me? "You're only as good as your source."

39 posted on 09/05/2014 8:16:11 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
..."You reveal your hand"...


40 posted on 09/05/2014 8:26:57 PM PDT by caww
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