Posted on 09/02/2014 1:27:33 PM PDT by Zakeet
Hang on it is illegal to hire illegals.
I only hope we take the senate, and then reverse a lot of damage the white house and Holder has done.
“You it has been many years but it seems to me that I had to review the I-9’s for my employees on their employment anniversary and if the document provided had expired they had to show me a renewed document or I had to show them the door so that I was not breaking the law. Funny how things change even though the law remains the same.”
Nothing has changed. The PERMANENT RESIDENT card is sufficient for the I-9, even if it has expired. PERMANENT RESIDENT means PERMANENT! Your PERMANENT RESIDENCY is PERMANENT with no expiration. Their are five conditions the US government can use to revoke it but they are very limited.
agree.
The damage what is being done is at a point where it might never be reversed and the country will sink into third world country like the rest of the America;s minus Canada
“Hang on it is illegal to hire illegals.”
You got it all wrong. Please do your homework.
Although I cannot guarantee our survival, the good that would come out of it eventually is proof that Big Government is a bad thing and nobody will question it.
Yep. Sometimes when I read the news I picture Rand, Huxley and Orwell sitting in a bar in the great beyond enjoying a few adult beverages while watching the machinations of the Obama Administration and nodding knowingly to each other..
No, they also make sure they get medical care, have lawyers paid for, and line them up for some “sponsor”, who we will pay thousands of dollars every month and who will make sure they are all signed up for all the freebies available.
What this is really about is making certain people supply more information than others. For example, if you simply accept Mr. Whitebread at his word and give him work with the bare minimum of required ID but require Mr. Enchilada to supply everything on the I9 list, that is discriminatory . The I9 form says to supply this and that or simply that. If you make any employee supply both the and and the or items, that is wrong.
The other thing I ran into is if you think a document is a forgery you may NOT refuse it. You are not considered to be an expert on forged documents and will be sued. I had an employee who had a SSN that was multi-colored and was advised to accept it. I was strongly condemned on this site for doing so, but as you see, there are hefty fines and when fines are not paid, businesses are shut down and offenders jailed and even when you retaliate against federal authorities, like the man who shot FDA inspectors at his sausage factory, you are roundly criticized.
What does work is to tell an employee his SSN is bad. I noticed when we got letters from SSN with a looooong list of bad SSn numbers, most offending employees feared deportation and left (as you well know that was extremely unlikely). The other thing we accidentally found out works is for the Fed Trapper to come out in his official vehicle and uniform and sound a siren to call for coyotes. When he did that more than half of the laborers ran never to return.
I worked in HR and payroll for years and was required to verify I-9 information to prove employment eligibility.
But you have to do it for both citizens and non citizens.
Form I-9 is used for verifying the identity and employment authorization of individuals hired for employment in the United States. All U.S. employers must ensure proper completion of Form I-9 for each individual they hire for employment in the United States. This includes citizens and noncitizens. Both employees and employers (or authorized representatives of the employer) must complete the form. On the form, an employee must attest to his or her employment authorization. The employee must also present his or her employer with acceptable documents evidencing identity and employment authorization
That must be something new, because I always required people to bring in their renewed documents after expiration.
Then why does it have an expiration?
“What this is really about is making certain people supply more information than others.”
It is very specific. The permanent residency card has an expiration date. The employer wanted them to get a new one if the old one had expired. However, the card being expired did not invalidate their status as a permanent resident. If you know the law it is not confusing and you honor the expired card as proof of work eligibility.
BUT, on the government website about renewals, it says it is important that you renew as you may have trouble traveling, reentering the US or getting employment.
“Then why does it have an expiration?”
They want to periodically ‘flush’ the system of old cards.
Why not just mail every new cards when the old ones expire? This is BS.
Has this country gone mad? It is impossible to be a business owner today and keep up with this insanity. Just last year after a 7 year ordeal, the talented technical person that we sponsored received his green card. So, he was in limbo for 7 years getting through the immigration hurdles and we kept the sponsorship alive for that time, legally to the tune of $27,000. Until he got the card, his wife couldn’t work legally here so she was on hold as well.
“Why not just mail every new cards when the old ones expire? This is BS.”
Agree. An example of a law that congress created to stop a problem (counterfeit cars) but does little good and more problems.
Refuse to pay. Make them come after you in court. Then walk away from every asset they’ve seized and start again. But put them through hell first.
Be punished for obeying the law or be punished for not obeying the law.
Another day in Obamaland. :)
Refuse to pay. Make them come after you in court. Then walk away from every asset they’ve seized and start again. But put them through hell first.
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