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To: Chunga85

“My wife listens to the radio in the car and tells me the radio informed her that the Russians have full-scale invaded Ukraine practically every day for the past few weeks.”

The Russians, Putin and Lavrov, have been falsely denying the Russian Armed Forces invaded the Ukraine every day for weeks, so naturally your wife is going to hear the news of the Russian invasion every day for weeks. The rest of your comments are obvious nonsense. The Russian Armed Forces have been in the Ukraine since before the Russian occupation of the Crimea, before the Maidan protests, and since the independence of the Ukraine; and many of them were Russian spies serving in the Ukrainian Government under the direction of their superiors in Moscow and Moscow’s puppet, President Yanukovych. Currently, the Russian Armed Forces are engaged in a general invasion of the Ukkraine with major components of several Russian airborne brigades, motorized rifle divisions, and tank divisions as a followup to the previous Speznaz and covert mercenary military operations.


10 posted on 09/01/2014 11:28:39 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

This source asserts the Russians have taken a lot of prisoners and will use them as hostages (negotiation leverage.)

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/maydan/updateaugust30.html

However, Ukraine’s Defense Minister appears to be attempting to prepare Ukrainians for worse, as he is warning of potential casualties in this ramped-up war in the tens of thousands:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/01/us-ukraine-crisis-idUSKBN0GS10C20140901

This goes back to a point I made months ago: Ukraine can win in the end, IF they are willing to sustain high casualties, and still kill some Russian troops even as Ukraine loses more. In effect, lose battles if necessary, but win the war. Ukraine has lost millions of its people in the past, and still ended up slaves. They can lose 100 thousand now, and be free of Russia for good. (Then Ukraine may have to work on the EU, but the EU is not going to invade w/ tanks and troops.)

IMO, Kiev must take the risk that Putin will not order the execution of 1000 or more Ukrainian prisoners.


19 posted on 09/01/2014 12:33:35 PM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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