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Will 2014 be the year that Jews support the GOP?
Hot Air.com ^ | August 31, 2014 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 08/31/2014 4:37:01 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Nifster

I know the recent sources and that they are suggestive of the tiny Orthodox vote going republican currently, but I’m not aware of anything that documents this claim “Orthodox conservative Jews have always supported the GOP or conservative candidate”.


41 posted on 08/31/2014 5:58:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Kaslin

They’ll never vote GOP because too many Republicans are Christians.


42 posted on 08/31/2014 5:59:44 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Psalm 14:1 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”)
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To: Sans-Culotte

That is only recent, both parties were always Christian when the Jews were voting democrat.


43 posted on 08/31/2014 6:05:02 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Here is an article I found interesting about the history and tendency of voting patterns

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/p/pod/dod-idx/jewish-american-voting-patterns.pdf?c=fia;idno=11879367.2012.004

The voting seems to be there even if the self identification is not. But it should be noted that Jewish voters are a small percentage of the total electorate and conservative Jewish voters are and even smaller percentage


44 posted on 08/31/2014 6:05:30 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

The importance of the Jewish vote isn’t numbers, but in funding and influencing of public opinion and the creation and leadership and in many cases, membership, of leftist groups.

If Jews became conservative, we would get a heck of a lot more than just their simple vote.


45 posted on 08/31/2014 6:12:55 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Kaslin
Uh . . . NO!

That would require:

A logical thought

Critical thinking

Admitting to one self they maybe their original belief system was wrong

That ain't ever going to happen!

46 posted on 08/31/2014 6:20:21 PM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: Sans-Culotte
They’ll never vote GOP because too many Republicans are Christians.

Bingo! There's your answer. American Jews are more afraid of Christians (whom they view as a threat to their well being) than they are of democrats.

They would never believe that democrats would march them off to the gas chambers.....but they feel certain that republicans.....would.....given the chance.

47 posted on 08/31/2014 6:25:58 PM PDT by Diego1618 (Put "Ron" on the Rock!)
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To: Kaslin

only if they all become Orthodox.


48 posted on 08/31/2014 6:32:08 PM PDT by hecht (america 9/11, Israel 24/7)
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To: ansel12

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/11/24/nyregion/the-city-vote-precinct-by-precinct.html?_r=0


49 posted on 08/31/2014 6:34:18 PM PDT by hecht (america 9/11, Israel 24/7)
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To: ansel12

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/11/24/nyregion/the-city-vote-precinct-by-precinct.html?_r=0


50 posted on 08/31/2014 6:34:19 PM PDT by hecht (america 9/11, Israel 24/7)
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To: hecht

You have the historical proof for this? “”Orthodox conservative Jews have always supported the GOP or conservative candidate.””

Where is it?


51 posted on 08/31/2014 6:43:40 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Oh I agree.... there is a perception that would go with such a swing....


52 posted on 08/31/2014 6:49:50 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Kaslin

The GOPe, no, but then I don’t. I hope Jewish Americans will look at CONSERVATIVES who support Israel.


53 posted on 08/31/2014 6:55:31 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: ansel12

” - - - When you look at the history of Jewish activism and activity in the United States, it has always been fighting for, writing for, financially supporting, and leading the left. - - - “

BINGO!


54 posted on 08/31/2014 7:07:48 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Kaslin

“...support the GOP?”

Lead into gold?

IMHO


55 posted on 08/31/2014 7:22:44 PM PDT by ripley
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To: Kaslin

Jews won’t switch... they’ll stand with Sharpton... Blacks aren’t going to switch parties either. Then again our NRA folks aren’t going to become democrats...


56 posted on 08/31/2014 8:01:38 PM PDT by GOPJ (Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil. - Thomas Mann)
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To: Kaslin

American Jews are pro Hamas so they will never support those who oppose Hamas,

My sad was Haganah and taught me to never trust American Jews.

American Jews are club Jews.


57 posted on 08/31/2014 8:10:52 PM PDT by NoLibZone (The bad news: Hillary Clinton will be the next President. The Good news: Our principles are intact.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
They vote what, 85% dem now? <<

Not sure...but I do know 83% vote their wallet.....Its essential to the religion....

58 posted on 08/31/2014 8:19:07 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Kaslin

I would say no but there are pockets that have swung over. There was that house seat in NYC which was heavily jewish in demographics that a pub won. Also in Canada the Jewish vote is now trending towards the conservative party there or it did during the last fed election.


59 posted on 08/31/2014 8:29:34 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Theodore R.
"Uninformed" is not the description I would use.

"You can’t reason someone out of something they weren’t reasoned into."

Most people will quite literally die before they will change the beliefs that they have been indoctrinated with for their core personality. A change of heart is a rare thing, and even then is generally the result of personal trauma rather than any rational consideration.

The American people have been steeped in Progressive ideology for well over 100 years now, and in the last 40 years the demographics of the country have been permanently changed by manipulations of the political elite. Too many people have been told that they deserve "free stuff", and the government should get it for them. They want to believe that.

There is no going back to an imagined Constitutional Republic with limited government and a rule of law for all the people. It would have been nice if we had tried it.

"The People" want Socialism - and they are going to get it good and hard. The inevitable failure will be blamed on "Right Wing Capitalist Wreckers", and "The People" will believe that too.

There isn't going to be any great awakening to Conservative causes by Jews, or Blacks, or Hispanics, or Gays or Women, or any other core constituency of the Democrat party. The Institutional Republicans are simply distracting themselves with wishful thinking - and alienating what remains of their original base supporters.

The particular tragedy of the Jews is that they are the first group that the Progressives turn against as the loot runs out.

60 posted on 08/31/2014 9:11:30 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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