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Feds May Reimburse Medicare 'End-of-Life Discussions' After Mocking Palin's 'Death Panels'
Breitbart's Big Government ^ | August 31, 2014 | Tony Lee

Posted on 08/31/2014 2:36:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Years after former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin was mocked for being concerned about "death panels," the federal government may reimburse Medicare doctors for end-of-life consultations that critics say would only encourage sick patients to reject costly treatments to prolong life.

The New York Times reports that "Medicare may begin covering end-of-life discussions next year if it approves a recent request from the American Medical Association," which is "the country’s largest association of physicians and medical students" and creates "billing codes for medical services, codes used by doctors, hospitals and insurers."

According to the Times, the group "recently created codes for end-of-life conversations and submitted them to Medicare" and The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services is expected to make a decision in the fall that could "profoundly affect the American way of dying."

As the Times notes, "end-of-life planning remains controversial," especially after Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin's "'death panel' label killed efforts to include it" in Obamacare. The Obama administration tried to sneak in a provision in a 2010 regulation before it "had Medicare rescind that portion of the regulation" after intense political pressure...

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; deathpanels; medicare; obamacare; palin; palinwasright
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1 posted on 08/31/2014 2:36:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She is “extremely” right.


2 posted on 08/31/2014 2:38:41 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “end of life discussion” is not the death panel.

The regulations that limit what treatments are available to you along with the administrators who administer those regulations, thats the death panel.

The doctor may tell you he’s done all he can, when what he means is he has done all he can from the menu of options that he is allowed to offer you.


3 posted on 08/31/2014 2:44:54 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron

According to the last paragraph of the above excerpt, enough people though it was to remove them from the bill.


4 posted on 08/31/2014 2:54:17 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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5 posted on 08/31/2014 3:09:55 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: marron
Yeah....like the UK version ,...the "Liverpool Pathway"

Short cut avoiding the hospice direct to the morgue

. The treatment plan aims to allow patients to die with as much dignity and in as little distress as possible. It was developed by Royal Liverpool University Hospital and Liverpool's Marie Curie Hospice.

Euthanizing 10,000 Brits a month at its peak.

6 posted on 08/31/2014 3:13:46 PM PDT by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: Balding_Eagle; 2ndDivisionVet

Sleight of hand.

Even at the time, it was a sleight of hand that the press played and too many commentators fell for.

Palin’s remark had to do with having to plead for treatment from a hostile regulator for her child with Down’s Syndrome. Immediately the talking heads shifted to a discussion of Obamacare paying for “end of life discussions”.

The “death panel” is at the very heart of Obamacare, the necessary rationing of care administered by regulators and a menu of available options as determined by them.


7 posted on 08/31/2014 3:17:24 PM PDT by marron
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To: spokeshave
Euthanizing 10,000 Brits a month at its peak.

Wow.

8 posted on 08/31/2014 3:19:22 PM PDT by marron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now, who could have foreseen that?


9 posted on 08/31/2014 3:21:55 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: marron

Everything related to ObamaCare is sleight of hand.


10 posted on 08/31/2014 3:27:31 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: P-Marlowe
She is “extremely” right.

Yeah. She's so dumb. ......enough to be correct on just about everything.
11 posted on 08/31/2014 3:40:21 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Balding_Eagle; marron
Everything related to ObamaCare is sleight of hand.

Fixed it.

12 posted on 08/31/2014 3:43:39 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: marron

Yes, there comes a time when the doctor can do no more to extend your life. Recently a friend’s mother had that conversation with her doctor. She was tired and sick and was ready to meet God face to face.


13 posted on 08/31/2014 3:49:19 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Rodamala

No you didn’t, you muddled it.

This is about ObamaCare, and it involves many more people than Obama


14 posted on 08/31/2014 3:53:07 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Approves of death panels. (The death god Ryuk, from the Japanese anime series Death Note.)


15 posted on 08/31/2014 4:09:17 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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It has always amazed me how liberals, who don’t believe in God, want to play him. To decide who lives and dies, and yes, the death panels are not just about what treatment one gets, but the encouragement for them to sign off on assisted suicide so they won’t need any treatment.... just a few pills to end it all for the pain.

This is targeted at the ones who have no more money to pay for the expensive assisted living at more than five thousand a month.....their bed becomes NEXT?.....FOR THE bank account cleansing. That’s sixty thousand dollars a year, and in three years that’s usually all she wrote, checks that is, and the elder law attorneys have gotten hold of the estate and auctioned it off to their friends/selves for almost nothing.

The family is stunned that their parent no longer wants to see them, because the lawyer got them to sign a paper saying so, that’s to keep any eyes off the paperwork or complaints from the Alzheimer patient.... who can’t believe their kids have abandoned them and don’t want to visit.....

YES< Eutunasia must sound good to the old person by the time end of life planning rolls around....the leftist lunatics have gotten everything, destroyed the family, so what’s left...a lonely existence at the nursing home wondering ‘What the hell happened?”


16 posted on 08/31/2014 4:46:21 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: marron

It has always amazed me how liberals, who don’t believe in God, want to play him. To decide who lives and dies, and yes, the death panels are not just about what treatment one gets, but the encouragement for them to sign off on assisted suicide so they won’t need any treatment.... just a few pills to end it all for the pain.

This is targeted at the ones who have no more money to pay for the expensive assisted living at more than five thousand a month.....their bed becomes NEXT?.....FOR THE bank account cleansing. That’s sixty thousand dollars a year, and in three years that’s usually all she wrote, checks that is, and the elder law attorneys have gotten hold of the estate and auctioned it off to their friends/selves for almost nothing.

The family is stunned that their parent no longer wants to see them, because the lawyer got them to sign a paper saying so, that’s to keep any eyes off the paperwork or complaints from the Alzheimer patient.... who can’t believe their kids have abandoned them and don’t want to visit.....

YES< Eutunasia must sound good to the old person by the time end of life planning rolls around....the leftist lunatics have gotten everything, destroyed the family, so what’s left...a lonely existence at the nursing home wondering ‘What the hell happened?”


17 posted on 08/31/2014 4:46:32 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: marron

Agree. This is not the “death panels” she was complaining about. I ask patients daily about their wishes for DNR status or not. It would be wrong not to ask since I am admitting them to the hospital and the automatic setting is a full code. Heck, I have decided I do not want that is certain situations. Don’t you want to a make your own decisions?? I do.


18 posted on 08/31/2014 4:47:02 PM PDT by therut
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....and not just the elderly ...

Teenagers smashed up in a motorcycle accident

premature and downs syndrome babies etc...

Basically the same "treatment" that was inflicted on Terry Shaviro (sp) of Florida.

19 posted on 08/31/2014 5:08:43 PM PDT by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: RightGeek

Don’t judge it too harshly.
Each year sliced off the lifespan is HUGE for the Medicare and Soc Sec financials.
It will be an easy sell to the millennials.
If they get nervous about granny’s premature departure, the regime will offer some chits for student loan forgiveness.


20 posted on 08/31/2014 5:12:19 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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