Posted on 08/31/2014 4:31:13 AM PDT by goldstategop
Doesn't sound accurate or like much of a plan. I would propose leaving the Ukrainians alone, I don't think they are about to be genocide victims.
“Dissidents are not tolerated much in Russia”
Not much on this site either, LOL. But I agree - but the question is what’s done to them. Like I say, the large scale labor camps don’t exist in that country, as far as I know and even Western countries have their own issues in dealing with dissent - just try saying a few (accurate) things about Islam and watch what happens in England, Canada, and Holland - we’re talking JAIL TIME (maybe nicer jails than Russia, but still jail time).
Russia is fully united with them. Most of them have ties to KGB-front groups. Even Obama with his mentor Frank Marshal Davis, who was a Communist agent. The No-Nukes, Anti-NATO, anti-American crowd themselves are made up mostly of Cold-War era Communist front groups who advocate that the United States should be passive, inactive, and dissolve NATO, in order to avoid provoking Russia and China. The Ron Paul Foundation is a newer manifestation of these front groups, with many of its members formerly working for Pro-Soviet apologist groups, or they have links to the Eurasianists such as Alexandr Dugin. They're song is always the same, which is, that we should mind our own business.
IOW, what you are saying is nothing more than Russian directed propaganda as organized by the KGB and now FSB.
Never said it was.
You claimed we were "evolving" into Russian style kleptocracy. The effect being that we are not so different from them, or will become them, and, thus, we should not worry about them. But how this is actually logical, you do not explain.
The Russian are ahead of us on the road to kleptocracy but do not have state-run industry benefitting communists
"There are three criteria for state capitalism: substantial state ownership in enterprises; direct government involvement in those enterprises; and an otherwise capitalist system where most enterprises are privately held and operate in market conditions. Russia meets them all. Aslund noted that the state owns two-thirds of the market capitalization in the Russian stock market. However, that ownership is mainly limited to four industries: energy (oil, gas, and electricity), banks, defense industries, and transportation. "
http://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/the-role-state-corporations-the-russian-economy
Most of the oligarchs themselves are "former" KGB agents and have their monopolies due to Kremlin policy.
Who cares?
Americans do. Obviously, Useful Idiots care about nothing.
Kherson is west of Crimea on road to Odessa.
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After we arm the Christian Ukrainians, they won't turn against us.
The Soviet occupation of Afghanistan lasted ten years.
Patriotic Americans are not going to “leave the Ukrainians alone.” We are going to help them kill our Russian enemies until the Russians retreat back to Russia in humiliation and defeat.
We are in a fight for survival as a free country not just the free country that keeps the rest of the world free. Our enemies have already won the foreign soil battle for the most part. Now we going down fast at home. You apparently do not understand the extent of our kleptocracy. It starts with printing money which is given out to favored industries and the 48%. That steals from the productive and the thrifty. From your link
Instead, the actual government strategy is focused on consolidating, maintaining, and expanding political and economic power for the ruling elites through the control of select industries and enterprises.
I don't see much difference between that and our largest banks. Granted they are not run by the CIA or former CIA.
I guess I am a "useful idiot" since I don't care in the least about Ukraine. I may have to put something about that in my tag line.
Good luck sorting out the Christians from the secular socialists controlling Ukraine. I suspect you will be arming them both.
WATCH: RFE/RL’s Russian Service spoke to relatives of the Russian paratroopers detained in Ukraine, who said that they have received very little information about the men’s situation and have been told not to believe what they see in the media.
video at link
http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-are-we-at-war-ukraine/26555090.html
Correction: a lot of the time you have to read Russian sources (or British, etc.) to confirm your bias.
Seriously, there is nothing more frightening than a "conservative" defending the Russian press. Those that aren't in prison, already, I mean.
Interactive map of 2013 Gazprom (Russian oil) prices in Europe. Note Ukraine paid one of the highest prices of all customers not one of the lowest.
http://www.rferl.org/contentinfographics/gazprom-russia-gas-leverage-europe/25441983.html
Was Frank Marshal Davis not a Communist agent? Trevor Loudon's research (found on his website) and his books detail Obama's communist ties extensively.
Those certainly had a role in the destruction of America, but the most destruction came from the hippies and the other protesters
Be specific. Which "protestors" from what organization? Which hippies? The KGB was involved in the anti-war movement and used its front groups to create the "hippies" you are referring to.
As for "warmongers," it sounds like you might be a hippy yourself.
We are in a fight for survival as a free country
Yes, and our enemy is international communism and the ideologies of suicide, such as represented by liberal socialism and Liberaltarian isolationism.
Rosneft To Invest $400 Billion In Arctic By 2030
“We expect to open a new oil province there, with reserves comparable to proven reserves of Saudi Arabia,” Sechin said.
You were doing pretty well with the KGB's destruction of America. No doubt there was more to it than I have read about. However you are falsely equating interventionism and republican free market capitalism (the opposite of liberal socialism). Interventionism clearly undermines free market capitalism. The reason is that economic strength leads to military strength. We can have economic strength and isolationism. Or we can have interventionism which is pot luck. Sometimes it works out such as WWII when we were victorious and benefitted economically. Sometimes it does not like in pissant countries like Vietnam where we were supposed to stop the communist tide. Did that adventure weaken communism in any way? If the politicians had let the military planners run Vietnam do you think we would have won? If your answer to the latter is yes, then I cannot help you. You are a military utopian.
You confuse Pravda’s anti-Obama stance (as opposed to the WP’s/NYT’s prop-Obama stances) to “honesty.”
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