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White House: National Debate Needed Before Obama Amnesty
dailycaller ^ | 2:42 PM 08/29/2014

Posted on 08/29/2014 3:58:07 PM PDT by ckilmer

White House: National Debate Needed Before Obama Amnesty

 

President Barack Obama wants a national debate on immigration, says his spokesman Josh Earnest.

The new call for a debate suggests that the president is abandoning — or at least delaying — his high-risk promise to Latino advocates that he would provide work permits to millions of illegal immigrants in the weeks before the election.

The president “wants to have a debate about the status of our immigration system, and what the consequences are for allowing a broken immigration to persist [and] what Republicans have done, or in this case, have not done, to try to confront that problem,” he said.

Supporters of greater immigration are increasingly worried Obama will ditch them at the altar.  “Keep your promise, take action, be strong and have faith that leaning into this issue is the right thing to do – policy-wise and politically,” said a statement from Frank Sharry, one of the leading progressive advocates for increased immigration, and a founder of America’s Voice.

“Hanging back out of fear is what the Republicans want [and] taking action to address our broken and unjust immigration system is what the majority of Americans want,” Sharry claimed in an Aug. 29 midday statement.

Americans have been debating immigration for decades, and polls consistently show that Americans want to welcome immigrants, want fewer immigrants and oppose the use of short-term guest workers. Nonetheless, business groups and progressives have repeatedly used low-profile regulatory and administrative changes to sharply increase the supply of low-wage workers and Democratic-leaning citizens in the United States.

Earnest also hinted the president wants to make the Senate’s June 2013 immigration bill a major issue in the November election.

“The president wants to make sure the context of that debate is understood in that there is a reasonable, commonsense proposal that has already been passed in a bipartisan fashion through the Senate and would pass the House if House Republicans weren’t blocking it,” he said.

But the Senate bill is is problematic for Democrats. It would roughly double the inflow of foreign workers and immigrants to almost four million per year. That increase would annually provide companies with almost one new foreign worker for every 18-year-old Americans who enters the workforce. In its defense, the bill’s advocates say it would boost tax receipts, increase spending on border security and move the nation toward a national E-Verify system.

Roughly 12 million illegals are now living in the United States, with little fear of removal. Since 2009, Obama has reduced enforcement of immigration law, and in 2013, fewer than 0.5 percent of the illegals were repatriated for immigration violations.

Since House Republicans blocked the Senate bill, Obama has repeatedly promised advocates and business groups that he would unilaterally provide some sort of amnesty — complete with work-permits — to millions of the illegals by the end of summer.

But numerous polls show that Obama’s plan is politically problematic among swing voters, Republicansblue-collar voters and among many Hispanics, partly because many Americans are worried an amnesty would harm job opportunities and wages for themselves. GOP politicians such as Rep. Tom Cotton and Scott Brown are using the immigration issue to boost their poll ratings.

Obama’s unilateral plan is being quietly opposed by Senate Democrats, partly because polls shows that few Americans want to see more foreign workers flood into the domestic labor market that is already glutted with unemployed, underemployed and poorly paid Americans.

Prior to this week, Obama’s officials have consistently said he wanted to implement the amnesty plan before the fall elections.

“The President has been pretty transparent about saying, look, by the end of the summer I’m going to consider a review that’s been conducted by the AG and the Secretary of Homeland Security, and I’m going to take what steps are within the confines of the law for me to mitigate some of problems that are posed by the broken immigration system,” Earnest said Aug. 4.

But Obama hinted Thursday that he would delay the amnesty plan. ”Our immigration system is broken and need to be fixed, and my preference continues to be that Congress act,” he said in a press conference.

“Hope springs eternal that after the midterm elections, they may act. In the meantime [before the election], what I’ve asked [Homeland Security Secretary] Jeh Johnson to do, is to look at what kind of executive authorities we have in order to make the system work better,” he stated.

In prior controversies, Obama has obscure his political retreat from unpopular policies by calling for debates.

For example, in 2013, when George Zimmerman was found innocent on charge of shooting Trayvon Martin, Obama called for others to engage in a national debate in lieu of him pushing unpopular federal intervention. When Obama backed away from his 2013 threats to bomb Syria, he called for Congress to debate whether nation should go to war in Syria.

According to a new Pew survey, Obama’s immigration policies have 31 percent approval and 61 percent disapproval. A late July poll by AP showed he had 18 percent strong approval, and 57 percent strong disapproval.

But continued debate is unlikely to shift public option towards Obama. Since 2007, progressives and business groups have spent at least $1.5 billion to overcome public opposition to cheap imported labor. Despite the spending, and cooperation from the media, progressives, and many top GOP politicians, public attitudes have become more pro-American since 2012.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigration; obama; whitehouse
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To: maggief
WH backing off due to increase of terror border threat becoming widely known.

They knew about the threat long ago, I'm certain.

Until the press started reporting ISIS in Mexico Obama considered the potential political upside worth the risk to our safety, presumably.

21 posted on 08/29/2014 4:25:11 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: ckilmer

We don’t HAVE an immigration problem, we have a
deportation problem and a porous border.

Secure the border FIRST.


22 posted on 08/29/2014 4:28:26 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ckilmer

Would this be like Holder’s national debate about race?

Or maybe Mao’s “Let a Hundred Flowers Bloom”?


23 posted on 08/29/2014 4:29:06 PM PDT by Argus
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To: ckilmer

Try a national referendum.Or is that too democratic (*small* d)?


24 posted on 08/29/2014 4:34:25 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party policy;Lie,deny,refuse to comply)
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To: Argus
Let a thousand schools of thought contend.

Quickly followed by a million IRS audits launched.

25 posted on 08/29/2014 4:36:11 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: ckilmer

Our immigration system is not broken. The problem is simply that it is not enforced.


26 posted on 08/29/2014 4:37:31 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Billthedrill

Spot on, friend!


27 posted on 08/29/2014 4:38:33 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ckilmer

I’m afraid the latest plan is to wait until after the November election. Then the embittered lame ducks and RINOs can join the rats to pass their “comprehensive immigration reform” to deliver to the donor base what they paid for. The border enforcement aspects will be DOA once again of course.


28 posted on 08/29/2014 4:42:01 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: skeeter

29 posted on 08/29/2014 4:54:51 PM PDT by maggief
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To: ckilmer
Oh sure. That’ll work. I am sure it will be an honest and open debate complete with their words that have no resemblance to what the common man understands them to be, truthfully reported by his propaganda machine, liberal use of the race card against Constitutionalists and other conservatives, and last but not least, absolutely no change in what he is going to do and that is to offset the TEA party voting power. He is a coward. He is a Marxist. He is a radical Muslim jihad is sympathizer. He is Putin's personal slut. He is the most useless glob of human debris to ever utter a word. And his Mother, IMO, was nothing short of a slut.
30 posted on 08/29/2014 5:20:31 PM PDT by cashless (Obama told us he would side with Muslims if the political winds shifted in an ugly direction. Ready?)
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To: ckilmer

Hey estúpido Americans....Looking charp..

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Get Americans to debate this 974 trillion more times, for another 40 years.. Lets have a fireside chat...

A community forum maybe, stuff it with applauding morons with planted questions obtained from 10 year olds.

Stupid Americans...By the time their done debating this and getting sucked into this government con-game, the U.S. we be completely occupied by Mexicans and foreigners from all over the planet...

31 posted on 08/29/2014 6:03:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ckilmer

Obama blinked.


32 posted on 08/29/2014 7:17:57 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: ckilmer
The man is a worse liar than even Bill Clinton.

You can NEVER believe him when he says he will do something. NEVER.

33 posted on 08/29/2014 7:24:09 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Billthedrill
We should dedicate a part of our government to this sort of “national debate”. We could call it...oh, I dunno, “Congress”.

Actually, a "national debate" is a pretty diabolical idea at this point.

Will such a debate force Republicans to speak in favor of amnesty -- in order to satisfy their C-of-C donors and, at the same time, inflame their base?

Heretofore, the GOP-e was hoping that Obama would act unilaterally -- so that they wouldn't have to. And they could then run against the President's action.

Now, they're caught in the trap...

34 posted on 08/29/2014 7:35:27 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: ckilmer

National Debate? How about impeachment.


35 posted on 08/30/2014 12:10:19 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ckilmer

Obama does not negotiate, so debate is purposeless.


36 posted on 08/30/2014 12:31:36 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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