[Teflonic]

It’s more likely that this time people will realize that it’s the Democrats shutting down the government by not accepting the amended budget handed to them by the Republicans. NOBODY WANTS AMNESTY! In fact it will finally dawn on them that the last shutdown was the same situation which will enable Ted Cruz to win the next presidential election.

[Lazamataz]

I can only pray you are right, however, look at the Democrat constituency. It is being demonstrated -- for example -- that Michael Brown charged at an officer after struggling for the gun, and prior to that MB strongarmed and robbed a store --and yet Michael Brown is being elevated to sainthood.

Do you think that, if they don't get rational THERE, that they are going get rational on a shutdown? With the press constantly blaming Republicans?