Posted on 08/28/2014 7:52:10 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
Reports that Russian troops are intervening directly in the fighting in south-east Ukraine have started to appear in Russian media, despite repeated denials from the Kremlin.
Newspapers and websites are quoting mainly Ukrainian and Western media reports about a Russian invasion, but some have also started to ask whether Moscow is now "fighting a war".
Many Russian social media users, however, say they have no doubt that Ukraine has been "attacked".
They echo sentiments in the Ukrainian twitter-sphere where #russiainvadesukraine, #StopPutin, and #UkraineUnderAttack have become the top trending hashtags.
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You’re right. Putin was helping America when he was in the KGB as Colonel too.
Echo chamber effect.
The Ukraine's historic enemy are the Georgians?
Let me know if you win any more converts to your side - your methods of presenting your arguments seem not to influence too many people to see your world view on Ukraine. I gues sthat is where the hostility comes from - from your frustration.
I do appreciate Putin helping open those transit points to Afghanistan and lending us Russia's Northern Alliance after 9/11 though - former status as KGB colonel notwithstanding.
I guess you feel that it's none of our business when an act of international terrorism brings down a commercial airliner and snuffs out the lives of hundreds of innocent men, women and children. And, I guess you weren't the least bit offended when Putin's thugs then desecrated the bodies of the victims and looted the wreckage for money and personal property.
You're entitled to your views, of course. But, I disagree.
Yes, there are many who reflexively take the side of any American foe. I've never been able to figure them out. I guess they just feel victimized by the rest of us here in America. Life just hasn't been fair to them.
Again, how did that tragedy that hurt America?
Well, I guess for openers, it should be noted that about 2 dozen of the innocent victims were Americans.
More fundamentally, though, I really can't imagine an American even asking the question that you pose. If you're an American, there's obviously something amiss here. Maybe age/maturity, maybe education - something's missing, that's for sure.
You tell me why you support Russia killing Ukrainians and giving missiles to ignorant nitwits who shoot down civil airlines and why that's good for America. Tell me why an aggressive Russia led by a narcissistic loon reestablishing Russian hegemony over its neighbors is good for America. Then I'll tell you why what's happening in Ukraine hurts America, the world, and the Russian people stuck under a revanchists, ultra-nationalist chauvinist super rich crackpot. Look, you as a Russian may be proud of him now, but Putin is not helping your country and he is hurting the world.
Russia is the country that has inflicted the most pain and suffering on Ukraine. Russians historically have been cruel to all minorities and neighbors. It’s not something new. At the same time Russia has pretended it’s the victim of all of its neighbors.
Not the Nazis? Not the Muslim Tartars with their slave raids? Not the Lith-Poles who were reviled?
Sorry, I am not buying your ethnic grude BS and I am not a Slav or related to any people in the region. I know history and yours is made up BS.
I repeat, except for the time the Greeks rules Crimea in ancient times the richest and most peaceful (or stable) the Ukraine has ever been was under Czarist rule. A Pax Russia. That is a fact. Russia was not the USSR. Stalin was not a Russian. The USSR carried out an agenda not based on what was best for Russia but best for the communist party ideology and within that communist party were many Ukrainians and non Russians like Stalin.
You bring up the famine genocide as if it was a Czarist policy - under the Czars the Ukraine was Europe's breadbasket. Stalin carried out the famine and he was a Georgian.
Try your false history on someone who does not know true history.
No, there were no Americans on that flight. There was one person who lived all his life with dual American citizenship but I don't consider people with dual citizenship to be Americans - especially if they never lived in the US.
So technically there was one American on a flight that was accidentally shot down over a war zone. Same sort of accident that happened when Reagan was president and a US warship in error shot down an Iranian civilian airliner in the Persian Gulf warzone.
Gee, I wonder how liberated the Libyans or Syrians feel now? Iraqis must be basking in their freedom imposed on them by the well meaning west.
I agree with Putin when he says Russia has not invaded the Ukraine and there are no Russian soldiers in the Ukraine, except for those who got lost and accidentally crossed the border. Taking Putin’s word for the absence of Russian military forces in the Ukraine, there should be no objections to NATO using air strikes to suppress the unlawful combatants’ missiles, tanks, and ground forces...eh?
Well, any airstrikes should be carried out by an air force that’s not in Ukraine.
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