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The outrage driving the Ferguson debate ignores these three key facts
The Washington Post's Post Everything ^ | August 27, 2014 | Joel F. Shults

Posted on 08/27/2014 1:26:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 08/27/2014 1:29:47 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

These truths will reshape how you think about the Michael Brown shooting.

I admit that in a cropped photo it

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: crime; darrenwilson; ferguson; lawenforcement; michaelbrown; selfdefense
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Finally! This would probably be good to answer all those liberals who are asking these questions. But they won't want to hear it.
1 posted on 08/27/2014 1:26:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“But they won’t want to hear it.”

Nailed it right there. Facts don’t matter to them. They have a bogeyman and they won’t stop until he (the cop) is in jail.


2 posted on 08/27/2014 1:31:05 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This whole Ferguson thing is so bogus in my opinion.

The liberals take a case of a shooting of a black person by a white coo, and jump to conclusions that it was due to the cop being a white racist.

They didn’t care to wait for facts to come out, or results of police investigations. They want the DA replaced because they fear he won’t get an indictment from the grand jury.

They conveniently forget all due process, and ignore the possibility that the results will be no indictment and a finding that the shooting was justifiable self defense.

These liberals and race baiters really overreacted in this case, as they did in the Trayvon Martin case. They are so eager to find a case to prove that America is still so racist and bigoted.

The rush to judgment in this case is disgusting in my opinion.


3 posted on 08/27/2014 1:35:10 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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"The rush to judgment in this case is disgusting in my opinion."

That's not the ONLY thing disgusting in this case...

4 posted on 08/27/2014 1:37:43 PM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry." -TJ)
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"But the violence that occurred in the St. Louis suburb this month following the shooting of a black teenager by a white police officer"

Well actually it followed the black teenager walking in the middle of the street following the strong arming of a shop keeper for some 'cigars' and maybe bum rushing the policeman, then the shooting.

5 posted on 08/27/2014 1:39:40 PM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives because God is Love)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The agitators don’t care about facts. They see this shooting as an opportunity for thuggery, burning, looting, extortion and terrorism.


6 posted on 08/27/2014 1:39:41 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: al_c

Another Tawana Brawley / Duke LA Cross slip and fall race pimp gone bad.

Wolf has been cried so often that the truly bad will know its open season on poor blacks.


7 posted on 08/27/2014 1:45:31 PM PDT by NoLibZone (The bad news: Hillary Clinton will be the next President. The Good news: Our principles are intact.)
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To: fatnotlazy

The agitators don’t care about facts. They see this shooting as an opportunity for thuggery, burning, looting, extortion and terrorism.

 

Your got that right.....

Adolphus Pruitt, president of the St. Louis NAACP chapter, which has been encouraging witnesses to come forward, said Johnson’s false report case “doesn’t concern me.”

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8 posted on 08/27/2014 1:47:20 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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...out of a reported 45 million face-to-face contacts annually between citizens and the police, fewer than 1 percent of those citizens reported any use of force. Of those who did report use of force, 74 percent self-reported that their own behavior instigated the force.

I think the thing that I don't understand is the reaction that followed before any solid information was revealed. Be it Rodney King, Katrina, or Ferguson, the black reaction is the same: destroy businesses, loot, and steal. When a black cop shot a white man in UT last week, white didn't whites go on a rampage? Both events are equally rare, but blacks have been taught the "I'm a victim" BS so it's okay to loot and steal, even though that has nothing to do with Brown's killing. There are enough quality videos of those thugs that the DOJ should be making arrests, but they won't. That would be "racist".

BS. They broke the law and, since they got away with it in the past, they know they can get away with it now. It's time to break this cycle. Holder, get off your a$$ and do your job and start issuing arrest warrants, or step aside and let someone else do it.

Meanwhile, maybe the blacks will be able to figure out why no new business is coming into Ferguson to create jobs.

9 posted on 08/27/2014 1:48:57 PM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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The agitators don’t care about facts. They see this shooting as an opportunity for thuggery, burning, looting, extortion and terrorism.

And to hold the Senate in November.

10 posted on 08/27/2014 1:49:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party policy;Lie,deny,refuse to comply)
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I wouldn’t lay the blame solely on the subset of black trouble makers. I would place the blame mostly on Obama, Holder, the usual race pimps and their lapdog media for stirring them up and increasing racial tension.


11 posted on 08/27/2014 2:08:53 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ferguson debate ignores these three key facts

Ignoring facts is what the liberals do best.

12 posted on 08/27/2014 2:25:13 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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I've been kicking around a theory about Wilson's physical appearance in instigating Brown's violent attack on a cop.

Wilson appears to be a soft looking white as many black criminals look for. A victim in a uniform.

Brown possibly thought he could get away with it.

13 posted on 08/27/2014 2:40:19 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Justice for Dillon Taylor!


14 posted on 08/27/2014 2:52:22 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I agree, everything is imedeadly about racism to them. Indeed I would go so far as to say that there are almost no racist left in this world, but its a card they so enjoy playing as a mean to get gooides they can’t help put play it illigiamtantly.

Well you know what I don’t care if the Cop was a racist, that’s not the question, the question is was he justified in shooting the Teenager. A question that WILL never be resolved by rioting, protesting, or looting, but by an investigation.

So racism has absolutely nothing to do with it.


15 posted on 08/27/2014 2:57:28 PM PDT by Monorprise
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No mention of Miriam Carey.

Hey race-grievance industry! There were whites all over the place shooting at Miriam Carey a 34-year-old dental hygienist from Connecticut and her 2-year-old daughter after she violated a restricted area near the White House, resulting in a car chase. Some rounds were fired from just outside her car at points where they could approach her parked car IIRC. Her 2-year-old daughter was not hit IIRC.

"Hey what about me? President Obama could watch his federal agents shoot me. And it was a lot more than six times!"

16 posted on 08/27/2014 3:06:15 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE FERGUSON RIOTS ?

All this inflamatory reporting of confrontations between black youths and authority is ruthlessly designed to keeping the black segment of Obama’s political support riled up so that any thought of instituting a richly deserved impeachment proceeding goes nowhere.

This regime and its supporters don’t give a damm if some poor black women or anyone else used all their resources to set up a business in those communities only to have it destroyed through blacks rioting resulting from what democrats created through their propaganda. Such blacks are viewed as eggs that must be broken to make their omlet.

That includes the whites,”hispanics” (note quotes) and asians. They are the other victims who have been maimed, assulted, and murdered by blacks citing those Florida manufactured episodes as their excuse for retribution.

This POTUS (president of the United States) signaled the clever direction to take through his use of “The Bully Pulpit”. And continues to rely on the constitutional office of The US Attorney General to conduct activities and investigations which promote division rather than supress it. Two examples of this used in the Florida case were Holder’s support of the Black Panther’s protest activity and the reward for the demise of the alledged murderer George Zimmerman of the “child”, Treyvon Martin. Which got a wink and a nod

With Ferguson beside sending in 40 DoJ prosecuters which remain to be seen what they come up with. (The Washington Post sent in 4 reporters to work over officer Wilson). Holder demanded witholding the devastating release of the video showing the “victim”was a 6 foot 4 inch 295 pound Michael Brown assulting a dimunitive asian store clerk, who was being portrayed as a just turned 18 year old black”kid” innocently walking home to grandma’s house shot in the back by a white police officer, Wilson, just because Brown was black.

That video was released according to press reports by the police chief of Ferguson responding to FOIA (freedom of information act) requests. But had that video been released earlier there was a decent chance there might have not been 4 days of rioting looting, and destruction of property.

The POTUS has yet to acknowledge and decry those other results, of killings and assults by blacks of whites, “hispanics”, and asians, in retribution for what a “white” hispanic did to a black kid.. Let alone be urged to do so by “news” members of the democrat propaganda army known as the media. They have yet to suffer as their victims the same or any conseqences. They like him are being held unaccountable . It’s time both are. .

While the Florida thing was going on nobody noticed what came out of HHS and its resettlement/relocation policies as a means to handle the racial divide. If Obama had his druthers and could pull it off we’d be all living in urban centers taking a street car to work, store, and play living happily together in a utopian setting with our thermostats set at 67 degrees.

They and by they I’m mean that political party which is in name only called “democrat”. There is nothing “democratic” about them. While the riots were going on you had a democrat governor calling for a “vigorous prosecution” and his state police commander marching with radicals flashing gang signs. With the cops reportedly told, let them riot. As the local state democrat representative repeats the propaganda dished out by the regime.

Not recognizing why this “racial divide” is being perpetuated has nothing to do with such lofty counter arguments being offered by the political opposition on “equality” or “justice”. Those discussions are viewed with glee and laughed at by the democrats because it first of all lends credability to their lying assertions and diverts focus from the real reason why the those in power are using this political device known as division. It’s to keep them unquestioningly in power.


17 posted on 08/27/2014 3:11:40 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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RE: "The POTUS has yet to acknowledge and decry those other results, of killings and assults by blacks of whites, “hispanics”, and asians, in retribution for what a “white” hispanic did to a black kid.."

And now assaults accumulate because of Ferguson.

The MSM and race-grievance industry have deep pockets. I do not understand why victims do not file civil lawsuits using the doctrine of vicarious liability. The offenders need only be aware of the hate and lies spewed forth. A jury would surely decide in favor of the victim.

18 posted on 08/27/2014 3:30:35 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Moonman62
I wouldn’t lay the blame solely on the subset of black trouble makers. I would place the blame mostly on Obama, Holder, the usual race pimps and their lapdog media for stirring them up and increasing racial tension.

And others.

I think this came from FR during the Martin/Zimmerman circus, but can't be sure - apologies to the author, who pretty much nailed it:

"This behavior is that of a single parent subculture raised on anti-white animosity, envy, and an entitlement mentality. It is triggered by their racist hatred and a righteous indignation instilled and encouraged by a Leftist Hollywood and black leadership victimist propaganda.

They are often ignored or always protected by the liberal National News Media, Political Correctness and empowered by a corrupt DOJ. They are forgiven by an endless list of affirmative excuses and lowered expectations, glorified beyond recognition by a fawning TV media, the movie screen, and gangsta Rap, which feeds this descent into ghetto tribalism.

This is the chaotic new social disorder, void of personal safety, common decency, and civilized behavior that the multi-culturalists have forced upon the rest of us, and until America wakes discards its blind obedience to Political Correctness and recognizes this behavior for what it is, violence by gun, knife, club, chain, etc., will only get worse."

19 posted on 08/27/2014 3:39:31 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

They also act like this happens all the time! Considering that they riot and Al and Jesse emerge from under a rock every time it does happen, and the last time they went bonkers was with Trayvon, that proves that it happens very rarely. And, in both cases, there is question of what REALLY happened and no initial arrests were made until a federal case was made out of it. Neither is cut and dried cold blooded racially-motivated murder. If this is the best they can do to show that nothing has changed since 1960, they are really reaching. And it is the media’s fault.


20 posted on 08/27/2014 5:32:37 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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