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To: Dutchboy88
I completely agree...and be replaced by the roving crowds of armed, crazy 18 year old thugs who rob stores, beat up clerks, bash in cops’ heads, break down your front door and kill your dog (oops, that is only the cops who kill dogs). But, I like your “handcuff the evil LOE” and make certain that the Muslims are free to traffic children for sex-slavery and visit your neighborhood so you can hold hands and sing Kum-By-Yah. You’re going to love your brave new world.

And, of course, there's no middle ground where a cop seeking a warrant has to attest, under pain of penalty, that their information is solid, they have the right address, there is no other way (such as, for example, simply surrounding and waiting); a middle ground where the judge issuing the warrant must swear, under pain of penalty, that he has thoroughly satisfied himself that the cop has presented a sufficiency of evidence as to circumstances and methods.

Per you, our only choices are to carte blanche cops firebombing babies in their cribs in the dark of night or letting vast mobs run wild in the streets.

17 posted on 08/27/2014 10:29:03 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Paine in the Neck; Dutchboy88
Per you, our only choices are to carte blanche cops firebombing babies in their cribs in the dark of night or letting vast mobs run wild in the streets.

Let me add this Paine, given only those two hypothetical scenarios I would still choose the latter. Without police me and my neighbors would at least have a chance to defend ourselves against the mobs without the threat of state retribution. The police state with it's courts, jails, and badged thugs is a whole different animal.

22 posted on 08/27/2014 11:12:14 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Paine in the Neck
"And, of course, there's no middle ground..."

Au contraire, my FRiend. It is you who have no middle ground. Hold them guilty for mistakes. Prison for errors. But, you may have an occupation in which your errors are abided; you get forgiven for your screw-ups. But, your justice is swift and harsh...for the other guy. True is the saying, "We judge others on their actions, but we judge ourselves on our intentions." Of course there could be some reasonable boundaries, but re-read your post...the guillotine awaits their errors.

27 posted on 08/27/2014 12:06:15 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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