The West 's green light for the federalization of Ukraine and its dependence on Russia

CCDreport ^ | August 27th, 2014

[se99tp]

Current political situation suggests that the silent permission of West for a federalization of Ukraine may be already a fact. Russia is restoring its political, military and economic influence on one more state closer to the border with the Pre-1989 West.

It may not be unrealistic to think that if the pragmatic Germany sold Ukraine to Putin, unimpressed by the incredible price it paid in blood for an independence of the KGB regime in Moscow, Berlin can also trade the other political achievements of Ronald Reagan with Russia.

[se99tp]

Interesting observations on the Russian's war with Ukraine and Germany's stance on it.

[Krosan]

Merkel might be the Queen of Germany, but she is not the Queen of the western world. America could easily set her straight, but will it?

[free_life]

The Russian politicians and diplomats, after more than half of century of calling lies as truth, and fiction as fact, should not be believed. West should understand that a lie is an instrument of the foreign policy of Kremlin. Therefore in the mind of Kremlin “federalization” would be a first barrier preventing Ukraine from accession to the European Union and, of course, NATO.

Months of bloody military conflict confirmed that Kremlin via its proxies may massacre Ukrainians until their finally comply to its demands of submission and obedience.

It may not be unrealistic to think that if the pragmatic Germany sold Ukraine to Putin, unimpressed by the incredible price it paid in blood for its independence of the KGB regime in Moscow, it can also trade the other political achievements of Ronald Reagan with Russia. Let us not forget Germany want to have reasonable relations with Russia - uber alles.

[elhombrelibre]

Putin has waged a blatantly illegal war against the nation and people of Ukraine for about a year now. He's exercised illegal influence in affairs of the nation so as to make them all kowtow to him personally. In Russia, he rules by ukase, which is fine with those people because they prefer to live in squalor without freedom as long as they can abuse their neighbors and champion Russian chauvinism and all its goofball myths. Putin's war in Ukraine is no more legal than that of ISIS and is based on the same reactionary chauvinism.

[Hugin]

Unfortunately NATO’s illegal wars against Serbia and Libya destroyed our credibility to lecture others on the subject.

[cripplecreek]

An expansionist EU hasn’t helped much either.

[Krosan]

People escape the Russian dominance. They are glad to be able to get away from the lying manipulative bottom feeding scum, that is Russia.

[cripplecreek]

And not everyone wants to join the lying manipulative bottom feeding scum that is the EU.

Van Rompuy: If The Public Doesn't Want EU Expansion, 'We Do It Anyway'

He admits he does not know if there is public support for such a move, “But we do it anyway.”

Frankly you Uksuckers are a whiny bunch who need to take a midol or man up and go fight because there's certainly no reason to respect you otherwise.

Russian on Russian domestic violence is not any business of the USA.

[elhombrelibre]

The regimes of Serbia, war criminal Milosevic, and Libya, long term terrorist supporter, through their own brutality and cruelty brougth their demise on themselves. I suppose if you like Putin, though, that Milosevic is a swell dude.

[elhombrelibre]

You’re speaking like a putin-loving crank.

[Bobalu]

Yup, exactly so my FRiend.

Pot calls kettle black.

[elhombrelibre]

By EU expansion you mean not falling under Putin’s dominance and being free of the Soviet/Putin empire.

[Hugin]

I don’t like either, but you were talking about international law. But I guess that’s only for when it’s convenient. Clinton had no legal right to steal Kosovo from the Serbs and give it to Muslim terrorists. As for Khadaffy, he had stopped supporting terrorists, and was cooperating in fighting radical Islamists, who now control the place thanks to Obama and NATO. Neither was a threat to US national security.

[Bobalu]

Both the truth and common sense are frowned upon by the usual suspects that haunt threads such as this one.

Best to ignore these posts... I came by looking to cure my morning boredom with a few laughs.

[palmer]

The regimes of Serbia, war criminal Milosevic,

So Germany's support of fascists and islamics in the Balkans is all good. Got it. In that case I suppose that Germany = good could be extended back into the last century.

But by my logic the other side are neo-Stalinists. And that is true. There are no good guys in Europe. You will see that once Germany turns fully Islamic.

[Jim Noble]

America could easily set her straight

Which America? 1945 America, or this one?

[Krosan]

I am in this camp who believes Obama does not erase America. Obama has to listen what the people say! He is a President, but he is not a Czar.

[cripplecreek]

LOL Yes I'm laughing at you and your absolute impotence to do anything and lack of courage to do anything. You may go now, I'm finished. LOL

[cripplecreek]

Frankly I have to question the loyalties of anyone who seeks to add to the Obama chaos by drawing into a fight that isn't ours to fight. Nothing will destroy a nation faster than too many fights of choice.

We have enough real problems to deal with and the Russia problem is one Obama created himself because he isn't man enough to face Putin.

I miss the days when we had a president who didn't cower under his desk.