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To: BroJoeK; Homer_J_Simpson

I used to wonder how Hitler could come out of nowhere and with his henchmen and awareness of at least some segment of the German citizens, commit these atrocities. Then I found out about the Fabian Socialist movement.

Fabian Socialism developed in England in the late 1800’s. They thought (and still do) that totalitarian regimes that kill “useless” classes of people was a good thing.

“I appeal to the chemists to discover a humane gas that will kill instantly and painlessly. Deadly by all means, but humane, not cruel.” Fabian Socialist George Bernard Shaw, LISTENER Feb 7, 1934.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgpaKkrZex4

These are clear signs we are living in the end times, because godless Fabian Socialism (now called “Progressivism”) is what the “intellectual elite” adhere to and someday implement on widespread scale.


40 posted on 08/25/2014 5:42:16 PM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate over unjust law & government in the forum of ideas)
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To: PapaNew; Homer_J_Simpson; colorado tanker; Tax-chick; henkster; Hebrews 11:6
PapaNew: "...wonder how Hitler could come out of nowhere and with his henchmen and awareness of at least some segment of the German citizens, commit these atrocities.
Then I found out about the Fabian Socialist movement."

To my knowledge, Hitler had no connections to, or even knowledge of, British Fabian Socialists.
The only real similarity is the word "socialist" in their names -- National Socialists / Fabian Socialists.

I've never seen a simple, compelling explanation of how Hitler's latent anti-Semitism became first public, then violent, then brutal, murderous and finally systematic exterminations.
Some of it is already in Mein Kampf (1925), but the full expression came step-by-step over the following 20 years.
How & why did he keep pushing, always to the next step...?

I've said here before, when it comes to mass murder, Hitler was the young precocious pupil of the day's old master murderer: Joseph Stalin.
While Hitler was still warming up in the bull pen (1930s), Stalin was already murdering hundreds of thousands, even millions -- i.e., the 1933 Ukrainian "holomodor" killed up to 10 million.
And this at a time while Hitler was still putting Jews & other enemies into the gentle confines of brand new concentration camps.

But Hitler was a quick learner, so when the opportunities presented themselves to "show his stuff", he went to work surpassing old Stalin's previous "achievements".

Let me put it this way:

  1. The First World War taught Hitler that both soldiers and civilians (i.e., Christian Armenians) can be made to die by the millions, and nobody cares.

  2. Old Joe Stalin taught that ideological reasons were plenty reason-enough for mass relocations, gulags and murders of millions of "class enemies".

  3. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was delighted to offer Muslim support for the military power which would utterly destroy European Jewry. Many Muslims still honor Hitler.

  4. By 1941, after two years of war, Hitler's options for shipping Jews far away -- i.e., Madagascar -- had disappeared, and since nobody offered to pay him for Jews, he felt "forced" to do what he always wanted to do anyway.

At least that's the best I can do in terms of explanations.

53 posted on 08/26/2014 6:11:58 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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