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After Losing to Hobby Lobby, Obama Admin Pushes Crippling Fines for HHS Mandate Violators
Life News ^ | 8/22/14 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 08/22/2014 10:58:24 AM PDT by wagglebee

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21 posted on 08/22/2014 11:27:40 AM PDT by JPG ("So sue me". OK, we will.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Looks like the Man Child is hellbent on destroying liberty. In fact, he is doing what he has always done: in effect, ignore the courts when he loses.

Guess what. He ignores the courts, we ignore him.

Screw him. Wish I had a company, I'd be in their face in disobedience.

And if he shut me down, I'd be monetarily set for life.

22 posted on 08/22/2014 11:28:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: wagglebee

ALL compulsion to contract is illegal.

Any compelled contract is void.


23 posted on 08/22/2014 11:31:51 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: dhs12345

There are supposedly several places in the law where it is up to the HHS Secretary’s discretion, therefore Congress has not say. Assuming all that is true, I have not read the monstrosity.


24 posted on 08/22/2014 11:32:19 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Moonman62
Good news. Hobby Lobby is also opening a lot of new stores.

The really good news is that she of the Angry Perm, Little Debbie "Mayonnaise Hair" Wasserman Schultz can waste her time organizing boycotts of every single one of these new stores.

25 posted on 08/22/2014 11:33:40 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: wagglebee
Fascism Lite just full scale FASCISM, here in America. Right here, right now. What next? Armed Blackshirts? Goosestepping? A Night of the Long Knives? Even a Kristallnacht?
26 posted on 08/22/2014 11:43:38 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Lazamataz
Guess what. He ignores the courts, we ignore him.

Still payin yer taxes there, Laz? Then you consent to the nonsense.

Still spending those FRN's? Consent.

Submitting to BG check for firearms? Consent.

Applying for permits to build on your land? Consent.

Paying your Ocare dues? Consent.

"Governments derive their just powers from the CONSENT of the governed."

27 posted on 08/22/2014 11:50:13 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: wagglebee

Simply put, this is a “dhimmi” tax to force Christians to renounce their faith in the payment of the tax, or face severe penalties.


28 posted on 08/22/2014 12:00:49 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: dware

Have not complied with a single one of those since Sputnik.


29 posted on 08/22/2014 12:10:00 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: wagglebee

And so the religious persecution begins here in the land of the formerly free and the home of the formerly brave.


30 posted on 08/22/2014 12:11:35 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: wagglebee

Abortion and homosexuality are the two pillars of liberalism.


31 posted on 08/22/2014 12:49:07 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: zlala

we the people are the douches for electing him twice and for NOT standing en mass as one force and declaring “NO! We ill NOT comply with your constitutionally illegal healthcare mandate” We as a nation HAVe done that in the past, and a federally mandated unconstitutional law was defeated that way when states banded together and said “NO! We will NOT comply with your unconstitutional law”- We as a nation have simply rolled over and have gone right along with this unconstitutional mandate- I believe Nikki Haley’s state refuses to allow it, so far, but her state I believe is the ONLY one doing so- IF enough states joined her, we could, as a nation defeat the Chicago thuggery and stop it in it’s tracks- but the country as a whole seems unwilling to stand up for their constitutional rights any logner


32 posted on 08/22/2014 12:50:22 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: wagglebee

The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them.

One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand


33 posted on 08/22/2014 12:50:22 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Lazamataz
Have not complied with a single one of those since Sputnik.

Not even the FRN's? How do you do that? I'm not being facetious, I really want to know. I even asked my boss if they could just go ahead and pay me in gold or silver. =D

34 posted on 08/22/2014 1:08:22 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: wagglebee
Was it Obama who made this quote about people who need charity:

“LET THEM DIE AND DECREASE THE SURPLUS POPULATION.”

...might’ve been Bill Gates...can't remember...

35 posted on 08/22/2014 1:25:59 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: wagglebee

What if everybody got together and said that we are not going to pay any fines connected to illegally made up laws?

The government supremacists would spend more time in court than on the golf course.


36 posted on 08/22/2014 1:27:44 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: zlala
0bama is a douche.

I'm not convinced that he's ever been inside a vagina.

37 posted on 08/22/2014 1:32:51 PM PDT by WhatWouldReaganDo
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To: dware

Nah bro I am kidding around. I participate in the system (to a point) SO FAR... but they have me at the breaking point. For example, if I have health insurance through an employer (which I do), cool. If that changes, I am NOT signing up on their insecure identity-theft website, and I am NOT paying a fine.


38 posted on 08/22/2014 1:32:57 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Lazamataz
(to a point)

With you there. We've been paring down to having as little as possible to do with em. I'm on the verge of not renewing any gov't issued ID's, I've gotten rid of the cell phone service, grew a decent garden this year, with plans for much bigger next year. My job provides the health insurance, although I don't use it as I don't want my stuff headed to the IRS. As you can tell, I'm working awful hard on going Galt. That's my goal.

39 posted on 08/22/2014 1:46:09 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: dware
I've gotten rid of the cell phone service

ME TOO! OMG, the silence is beautiful. I may just stay with this, or if I do re-up, it will be (CELL PHONE BATTERY OUT AND AT HOME) most of the time, use it very occasionally and only when necessary. The NSA revelations were very disconcerting to me.

40 posted on 08/22/2014 1:50:28 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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