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They Want Our Guns While Giving Submachine Guns to the USDA
Independent Sentinal ^ | Aug. 21, 2014 | Sara Noble

Posted on 08/22/2014 8:38:56 AM PDT by drypowder

We are on a bad path and we need to stop before it goes too far. Our government agencies have become rogue governments-within-a-government, they are now arming themselves and our domestic police forces. At the same time, Mr. Obama is decimating the military.

The Business Insider reported that …we produce so much military equipment that inventories of military robots, M-16 assault rifles, helicopters, armored vehicles, and grenade launchers eventually start to pile up and it turns out a lot of these weapons are going straight to American police forces to be used against US citizens.

The program Paul is talking about is the Pentagon’s little known 1033 program authorized under section 1033 of the 1997 National Defense Authorization Act.

(Excerpt) Read more at independentsentinel.com ...


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The buildup and formation of obozo's well armed citizen army of which he proclaimed the need in his 2008 campaign is now in our face.
1 posted on 08/22/2014 8:38:56 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: drypowder

Some pigs are more equal than other pigs, apparently.


2 posted on 08/22/2014 8:40:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: drypowder

“When They Pry Them From My Cold,Dead Hands”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 08/22/2014 8:41:07 AM PDT by bandleader
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All of us together and they won’t get that close.


4 posted on 08/22/2014 8:44:17 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: drypowder
and it turns out a lot of these weapons are going straight to American police forces to be used against US citizens.

All this means is that a great many more police officers will die than would have had they not been over equipped with military style weaponry.

5 posted on 08/22/2014 8:52:22 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (It is through will alone that I set my mind in motion.)
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6 posted on 08/22/2014 8:56:09 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: drypowder

It started under Clinton when he greatly expanded which US government employees could carry a firearm while at work. For example, poultry inspectors were then authorized to carry. Why a poultry inspector needs to have pistol while inspecting chickens is beyond me. Obozo just accelerated it.


7 posted on 08/22/2014 8:56:52 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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USDA needs to protect themselves from corn and bean riots....


8 posted on 08/22/2014 9:00:51 AM PDT by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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Also, those cows in the Chik-Fila commercials look extremely dangerous...


9 posted on 08/22/2014 9:02:00 AM PDT by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Why a poultry inspector needs to have pistol while inspecting chickens is beyond me.

What if they corner some Salmonella and it takes the Streptococcus hostage?

10 posted on 08/22/2014 9:05:11 AM PDT by papertyger (Those who don't fight evil hate those who do)
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If these weapons are actually going to the USDA, I wonder how much weapons training the USDA agents have received???
They may shoot each other...
(Note:Picture Al Gore attaching sling to the M-16 in Vietnam...*ROFL*)


11 posted on 08/22/2014 9:10:32 AM PDT by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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Picture of Gore at this site...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/gorevietnam.asp

*LOL*


12 posted on 08/22/2014 9:14:13 AM PDT by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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To: drypowder

Well armed is not well trained.

In untrained hands, a machine gun puts pigeons and sea gulls at risk due to muzzle climb.

Lastly, having trained an Obamoid Trough Feeder, what does the AgencyPerson in charge of said Obamoid have to provide their armed subordinate with after every coffee break?

The correct answer: Retraining.


13 posted on 08/22/2014 9:24:05 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Well, every government agency has an office of OIG to investigate fraud, etc. within the department. The investigators who work for OIG are law enforcement people who investigate crime and make arrests. That is the reason all these seemingly mundane departments buy weapons and ammo.

My preference is that we do away with all these government agencies, then we won’t need investigators to police them.


14 posted on 08/22/2014 9:53:15 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe. Its one thing to be well armed and well trained and yet another just to be well armed. :) Just saying...


15 posted on 08/22/2014 10:10:47 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: drypowder

Us`n Armed Mountain Farmers can kick the $ht out of USDA any day.


16 posted on 08/22/2014 10:36:40 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I believe that when the police are completely transformed into a “standing army”, and they will be - it has gone too far to reverse, they will also they have unwittingly created the largest force of anti government guerrillas in the world.

It’s not going to be the cake walk these Storm Trooper wannabes think. Armored vehicles, tanks, copters and so on are impressive looking and will keep people off the streets of urban areas. But they will be fairly ineffective against a large number of armed & motivated civilians. IMO, what all this firepower and armor is good for is cordoning off areas of a city or laying siege to specific limited areas. For all this hardware, when they push the general populace into a determined uprising, they are going to be seriously outnumbered. Which means they will have to hunker down into fortified enclaves. The end result will be “law enforcement” under siege.

How many professional soldiers with much greater amounts of equipment did it take to subdue the cities in Iraq? It takes a vastly overwhelming force to do that.

LA in 2013 had about 10,000 sworn police officers. How many of those 10k could actually be equipped with serious military gear? 500? 1000? I don’t know, but it can’t be a large number. The rest are basically going to be equipped only marginally better than the *American citizens* they are expecting to subdue. The defenders or insurgents or whatever we call them will have the tactical advantage in an urban environment, particularly one as large as LA. My opinion of course.

If/when police get in their (relatively few) armored vehicles and mow down a fair number of ordinary citizens, I think an unbelievable sh1tstorm will be loosed upon them. How many of those 10k cops in LA are going to be willing to walk the streets knowing a large portion of the population wants to get them? Not just a relatively small number of criminals. They are not prepared or trained to be combat soldiers. And they won’t get court marshaled for deserting. Be a lot different than hitting a half dozen criminals with 50 swat guys and a bunch of vehicles. Or a couple of druggies in a house. And their families will not be safely tucked away in another country.

If our government tries to morph our police forces into occupying armies, it will be much bloodier than their egghead strategists think. It will not play out the way their hardware inflated egos expect.

I sincerely hope things don’t degrade that far, but I have little faith that government bureaucrats heady with power will ever see that line before they cross it.


17 posted on 08/22/2014 11:08:58 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: 556x45; 2ndDivisionVet

It bears stating that LE training is not military training. LE of any kind is not trained or prepared for *extended* conflict (that is key IMO) with a sizable number of armed opponents. Even un or poorly trained opponents.

As I pointed out elsewhere, they will not be trained military, subject to court marshal fighting in a foreign country. They will also not have the organized & sustained supply infrastructure that a military force has.


18 posted on 08/22/2014 11:19:29 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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Not knocking what you wrote...I agree with all of it.

But it seems like you took my one sentence and put it through a Verbosity Amplifier.


19 posted on 08/22/2014 12:35:51 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (It is through will alone that I set my mind in motion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
It started under Clinton when he greatly expanded which US government employees could carry a firearm while at work. For example, poultry inspectors were then authorized to carry. Why a poultry inspector needs to have pistol while inspecting chickens is beyond me. Obozo just accelerated it.

Ya know, I think there was a Bush in there as well somewhere. It's not a partisian thing. Both republicans and democrats see us as the enemy.

20 posted on 08/22/2014 1:03:55 PM PDT by zeugma (Islam: The Antidote for civilization)
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