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To: LongWayHome

Better than what is in there now. Duval Patrick
and Hillary may be the competition. I am betting
Some conservatives will stay home because of Romney. They did it last times and assisted Obama and Biden .


5 posted on 08/21/2014 9:55:12 PM PDT by oldironsides
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To: oldironsides

I doubt Mitt is running. Ryan might. We can do better than these 2. Ted Cruz comes to mind.


11 posted on 08/21/2014 10:10:57 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: oldironsides; Patton@Bastogne; All
Some conservatives will stay home because of Romney. They did it last times and assisted Obama and Biden.

Any "assistance" rendered Obama and Biden by refusing to assist liberalism in the Republican party, is limited entirely to consequence, water rushing into a void. Bigger, lefter government in both parties (when the Republican party moves left, the Democrats move lefter) would have resulted either way.

Same results, different path -- one incidental, leaving conservatism intact (Obama), the other an active choice to push, out of blind fear of the consequences of not doing so, in the direction of leftism (Romney) using conservatism's only source of power as its vehicle.

A person can vote for that if they want to tell themselves that if they didn't, they'd have "assisted" Obama, but at the end of the day, a vote for Romney was a vote for leftism. If that's not assisting leftism, I don't know what is.

I think that for the 2016 Presidential contest, America's only chance will be a third-party breakout that will help Republicans in Congress choose sides; if a new limited government party really is necessary to replace the Republicans, only then is a "third" party needed in the big picture. But when Romney loses, moderate Republicans everywhere lose; if he wins, moderate Republicans in Congress gain over limited government conservative Republicans.

I dream of Cruz or Palin being the maverick or rogue "Independent" candidate, a limited government candidate. Neither the Republican nor the Democrat party offer any alternative to more and bigger government, and Americans are sick of government.

Chances are about 99.99 percent sure that the GOP primary protocol is already guaranteed to produce Romney or a RINO nominee. IF that happens, then Americans are going to be screaming for a real choice, though the MSM will be entirely deaf.

20 posted on 08/21/2014 11:04:04 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: oldironsides

Lib loving Romney assisted Obama and Biden by deciding Obama was a good man so he didn’t have to campaign.

Right now he and Ryan are on the Republicans should all run for amnesty tour together. If Romney had decided that Obama was rotten to the core and had actually tried to defeat him in 2012, know for certain that we would have amnesty already if they had won.


22 posted on 08/22/2014 12:17:45 AM PDT by Waryone
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