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At least 70 dead from hemorrhagic illness in northern Congo- WHO
Reuters ^ | 8-21-2014 | Reuters

Posted on 08/21/2014 4:11:16 PM PDT by tcrlaf

At least 70 people have died in northern Democratic Republic of Congo from an outbreak of hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, the World Health Organization (WHO) said on Thursday, denying that the illness was Ebola.

"This is not Ebola," a WHO spokesman said in an email to Reuters on Thursday. A WHO report dated Thursday and seen by Reuters said that 592 people had contracted the disease, of whom 70 died


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: congo; deathtoll; ebola; ohcrap; outbreak
If it isn't Ebola, what is it??
1 posted on 08/21/2014 4:11:16 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

There are several similar viruses in that area. Ebola tends to have the highest death rate.


2 posted on 08/21/2014 4:17:27 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: tcrlaf

Its exactly what he said - Hemorrhagic gastroenteritis -
Which is a description of symptoms actually.

There are piles of tropical diseases that have never been properly investigated as to pathogen, vectors, etc.

In my old neck of the woods we had a range of fevers the doctors would call “paratyphoid” - which of course just means “sort of like typhoid, but its isn’t”.

One reason not to think its not Ebola is the survival rate is too high.


3 posted on 08/21/2014 4:17:56 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: tcrlaf
Viruses are the MOST adaptable and indestructible little creatures that our good Lord created. They can't be killed like bacteria. They simply have to be SURVIVED while they live out their short lives and die.

They can morph right under the microscope while the researchers are WATCHING...into something MORE virulent and deadly.

I had the Asian flu in 1965. Being young I survived it, sick as a dog for THREE weeks. However, since then I haven't had a flu or cold...and I'm old. The antibodies my immune system built up are still working. [I do have some sinus trouble in the spring if I work out in the yard for too long.]

THAT'S what viruses do, so who knows what this latest disease is now. Our best defense is to be as HEALTHY as a horse...and I am.

4 posted on 08/21/2014 4:18:14 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: tcrlaf

It’s supposed to be rare in humans, here’s a piece on it.

http://www.infobarrel.com/Hemorrhagic_Gastroenteritis


5 posted on 08/21/2014 4:18:45 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: tcrlaf

What is it?


Man made virus only the selected elitist have a cure for. The lefts ultimate answer to overpopulation.


6 posted on 08/21/2014 4:19:40 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: tcrlaf

Marburg maybe, 25% death rate.


7 posted on 08/21/2014 4:20:00 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: tcrlaf

Perhaps Islamists using biowarfare to take over the rest of Africa. Nothing they do would surprise me. They already have taken large areas in north Africa and have large areas in Somalia, Kenya and are doing cross border raids on into Tanzania.
Some missionary friends of mine in Tanzania are getting a little nervous.


8 posted on 08/21/2014 4:21:04 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: tcrlaf
Sounds like it could be…

An Overview of Hemorrhagic Colitis: A Hemorrhagic Gastroenteritis

This article will describe the human form of hemorrhagic gastroenteritis called hemorrhagic colitis. This medical condition is caused by an infection with the bacteria known as E. coli.

An Introduction

The most common form of hemorrhagic gastroenteritis in humans is hemorrhagic colitis. This is a form a of gastroenteritis caused by the bacteria E. coli O157:H7, which has results in a bacterial infection. This is the most well known strains of E. coli, but other strains of this bacteria enters can enter the intestine and multiply to cause infection. It produces a toxin that causes an inflammation of the lining of the intestine. When this happens the person first experiences cramping pain and diarrhea, but with prolonged exposure to the bacteria and its toxin the symptoms worsen.

Unfortunately this infection can occur in anyone though it is more severe in babies and the elderly. Usually the person can develop exposure to the bacteria by eating food that has been contaminated. For example some foods associated with E. coli infection are undercooked beef and unpasteurized milk. However, it is possible to transmit this infection from person to person. The infection is also transmitted from contaminated water. However, there have been no cases of vector transmission of E. coli infection.

Signs and Symptoms of Gastroenteritis

When the person first experiences this infection they will naturally think that they have food poisoning. This is partially true, but the toxin produced by E. coli can cause a more severe infection than the usual bacteria that causes food poisoning. Initially the signs and symptoms of the disease will start with a pain in the abdomen that is followed by cramps and diarrhea. This can last anywhere from at least one day to up to eight days. As the infection progresses, it can cause bleeding from the walls of the intestine. In some cases the bleeding is quite severe and the person can develop anemia or reduced blood iron. This anemia can progress to cause a situation known hemolytic-uremic syndrome that causes a kidney failure. Hemolytic-uremic is a complication of E. coli infection and the symptoms of this can include increasing fever, stroke and brain damage.

Bottom line is that there are a lot of things out there and especially in that part of the world that can make you very, very ill or kill you. Ebola is the least likely among them.

9 posted on 08/21/2014 4:42:12 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: doc maverick

All anyone has to do to wipe out a huge part of the population of Africa is simply neglect it. I’m sure the Islamists will capitalize on this, but they don’t have the brains to engineer it.


10 posted on 08/21/2014 4:47:09 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: tcrlaf

Parvo??


11 posted on 08/21/2014 4:54:55 PM PDT by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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To: cloudmountain

You have said on a couple threads that viruses can’t be killed.

That is simply not true.

For instance the Influenza virus can easily be killed. The immune system, once it is on notice, simply rips it to pieces.

It is ONLY when the virus evades the immune system, then gets past the cell membrane, then travels the seemingly endless path to the nucleus that it can replicate.


12 posted on 08/21/2014 4:58:32 PM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: cdcdawg

Read this article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2731164/ISIS-offered-swap-Foley-Lady-Al-Qaeda-Terrorists-wanted-return-MIT-graduate-jailed-U-S-planning-mass-casualty-strike-dirty-bomb-ebola-chemical-weapon-spared-children.html

I put nothing past them.


13 posted on 08/21/2014 5:10:32 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: driftdiver

“Marburg maybe, 25% death rate.”

A 25% death rate is still really high. If everyone in the US got that virus it would mean over 80 million deaths.

There seems to be, at least to my casual observation, an inverse relationship between ease of transmission of a virus and its mortality rate so that the easier it is to catch the less dangerous it is. I guess humans can be grateful for that or we’d all be dead by now.


14 posted on 08/21/2014 5:17:00 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: doc maverick

bookmarked for later. Thanks.


15 posted on 08/21/2014 5:28:55 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: tcrlaf

Just a completely strange coincidence. Sure.


16 posted on 08/21/2014 5:51:26 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: tcrlaf

Alkhurma homorrhagic fever (AHF)
Chapare hemorrhagic fever (CHHF)
Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever (CCHF)
Ebola hemorrhagic fever
Hemorrhagic fever with renal syndrome (HFRS)
Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome (HPS)
Hendra virus disease
Kyasanur Forest disease (KFD)
Lassa fever
Lujo hemorrhagic fever (LUHF)
Lymphocytic choriomeningitis (LCM)
Marburg hemorrhagic fever
Nipah virus encephalitis
Omsk hemorrhagic fever (OHF)
Rift Valley fever (RVF)
Tick-borne encephalitis


17 posted on 08/21/2014 6:08:48 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: djf
From the Internet:
Viral infections in animals provoke an immune response that usually eliminates the infecting virus. Immune responses can also be produced by vaccines, which confer an artificially acquired immunity to the specific viral infection. However, some viruses including those that cause AIDS and viral hepatitis evade these immune responses and result in chronic infections.
Antibiotics have no effect on viruses, but several antiviral drugs have been developed.

Most people can survive viruses. They are not all deadly. The common cold can't be cured yet and it's from viruses. People just wait them out.
People have to be healthy, though, and most Americans are.

I'm no doctor. I'm just taking stuff off the Internet.

18 posted on 08/21/2014 8:52:46 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: djf
I read on the internet that the flu virus can't be killed. It lives out its life on a healthy body, dies and the person survives.

I had the Asian flu, the FIRST, nasty flu from Asian way back in 1965. I was in bed for three weeks. There was no antibiotic for it (still isn't). I just happened to be a VERY healthy young woman and survived the flu's ravage of my body.

FWIW: That nasty flu immunized me so well that I haven't had the flu or a cold since then...and I am old.

I do get some allergy symptoms if I work out in the spring garden for too long. All those fluffy pollens floating into my nose, eyes and mouth.

19 posted on 08/21/2014 9:01:04 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Well, you are obviously interested and have a bit of knowledge.

I urge you to watch the BBC’s Hidden Life of Cells

Part one is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFrKN7hJm64&list=PLXIofKAptSKiCM77NAvkeRsSCWp2AooJ6


20 posted on 08/21/2014 9:17:48 PM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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