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'Twice as Many' British Muslims Fighting for ISIS Than in UK Armed Forces
Newsweek ^ | 08/21/2014 | By Madeline Grant and Damien Sharkov

Posted on 08/21/2014 1:46:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

There are now more than twice as many British Muslims fighting for Islamic State than there are serving in the British armed forces, according to a British Member of Parliament (MP).

Khalid Mahmood, the MP for Perry Barr in Birmingham, estimates that at least 1,500 young British Muslims have been recruited by extremists fighting in Iraq and Syria in the last three years.

Mahmood told Newsweek that this figure had been building since the start of the Syrian conflict: "If you look across the whole of the country, and the various communities involved, 500 going over each year would be a conservative estimate.”

According to the Ministry of Defence, there are only around 600 British Muslims currently serving in the Armed Forces, making up approximately around 0.4% of total personnel. 4.3% of the British population are Muslim.

The UK Foreign Office said that they believe over 400 individuals have travelled to Syria since the uprising began, but said that they could not give exact numbers.

However Mahmood described such low estimates as “nonsense” and said that the British government was failing to deal with the problem of home-grown extremists. “We’ve not concentrated on the prevention work, we haven’t invested enough in de-radicalisation. It’s tragic, somebody’s got to wake up to it.”

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: britain; isis; islam; jayvee; terrorism; ukmuslims

1 posted on 08/21/2014 1:46:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

But Mum and the kids remain in Council Housing and on the Dole. Hell, the ISIS ‘fighters’ are still on the Dole themselves!


2 posted on 08/21/2014 1:48:56 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Only a specific Program, Plan, and Leadership will end the chaos of dysfunctional government.)
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To: SeekAndFind
A quote from an 1899 book by Winston Churchill, "The River War", in which he describes Muslims he apparently observed during Kitchener's campaign in the Sudan

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

3 posted on 08/21/2014 1:49:33 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: SeekAndFind

With the current war: Why should ANY be allowed to serve in the British forces?

Or the United States forces?

Including the CIC!


4 posted on 08/21/2014 1:54:53 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: FatherofFive
How to explain this?

Science in the medieval Islamic world
5 posted on 08/21/2014 1:55:15 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If the UK had any sense they wouldn’t let them back in and ship their families back to be with them in the middle east...


6 posted on 08/21/2014 1:56:33 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

Ping!


7 posted on 08/21/2014 2:00:24 PM PDT by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If I’ve found the right article/movie, it makes the case the Arabic science and Arabic numerals came from India. Since they were found in the possession of Arabs then Arabs got the credit.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-indians/


8 posted on 08/21/2014 2:01:46 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: lightman
"With the current war: Why should ANY be allowed to serve in the British forces? Or the United States forces?"

I agree 100%. Islam is the mortal enemy of western civilization, and muslims will never be loyal to any western society. It's the height of stupidity to allow them into our military, police and civil government. Frankly I'd rather they not even be in this hemisphere.

9 posted on 08/21/2014 2:02:04 PM PDT by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: SeekAndFind
How to explain this?

The 'science' under Islam was stolen from the people they conquered. Nothing new has come from Muslim countries. They are stuck in the seventh century

10 posted on 08/21/2014 2:08:46 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: SeekAndFind
How to explain this?

By noting that everything in there came from somewhere else and was adopted by Muslims. It may have been refined, but the origins of much of what they did came from outside Islam.

11 posted on 08/21/2014 2:12:48 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Muslims should be barred from serving in the armed forces since we are at war with their native lands.


12 posted on 08/21/2014 2:12:53 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: elpadre
Problem: We fought WWII with a plethora of Germans and Italians in US ranks, not to mention the Japs of the old 442. Muzzies are a bit beyond the Pale with their grisly politico-religion, but that one's going to be hard sell.

Tell you what, though, the Brits should stop ALL of their wonderful welfare payments to the families of errant Worthy Oriental Gentlemen.

13 posted on 08/21/2014 2:35:08 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Only a specific Program, Plan, and Leadership will end the chaos of dysfunctional government.)
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To: IYAS9YAS; FatherofFive; SeekAndFind
The Muslim golden period lasted only about 300 years, 800-1100. Baghdad was the center of the intellectual world.

But, alas, a fundamentalist took power and revelation replaced investigation. al Ghazali is considered the second most influential muslim after Muhammad. Aristotle, Socrates, and other Greek Philosophers would become corruptors of the Islamic faith

Today in America, science is the corruptor of the Christian faith.

14 posted on 08/21/2014 3:06:51 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Today in America, science is the corrupter of the Christian faith.

You have it backwards.

15 posted on 08/21/2014 3:12:13 PM PDT by Misterioso (Obama is our first postmodern president. Philosophy is dead.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

RE: Today in America, science is the corruptor of the Christian faith.

That’s what evolutionists like Richard Dawkins would like the populace to believe.


16 posted on 08/21/2014 3:21:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: All

17 posted on 08/21/2014 3:24:23 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Immigration is AWESOME!!!


18 posted on 08/21/2014 5:56:36 PM PDT by montag813
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