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To: Carry_Okie

hey, guess what, not only do I not make 200,000 a year and not have a fat pension and not have medical benefits when I retire but I don’t know anybody that works outside of the stupid state of California that does. I pay into my pension I have to take care of my retirement medical costs just like everybody else Take That and stick it in your hat.

you are example of fishermen and tree cutters who have more dangerous jobs and I do does not correlate. It does not correlate because I am NOT coming and watching you cut the trees and telling you how to do it because I don’t know how to trim a tree I don’t know how to run a fishing boat I don’t L fishing boat operators how to catch fish or pull up crabs because I don’t know how to do that and I am NOT an expert in it.

I wants watch the guy cut a tree I thought it was crazy was doing a terrible job but I didn’t automatically make myself an expert and assume I knew how to do it better.

I also have never seen a tree decide to fight back against the guy with the chainsaw or the crabs rise up and decide they’re not going to be taken alive

it is obvious this is more about your emotions revolving around horrible pension plans in states like California than it is about anything else.


82 posted on 08/21/2014 10:11:48 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (This town needs an enema)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
hey, guess what, not only do I not make 200,000 a year and not have a fat pension and not have medical benefits when I retire but I don’t know anybody that works outside of the stupid state of California that does. I pay into my pension I have to take care of my retirement medical costs just like everybody else Take That and stick it in your hat.

A drugged out idiot with a knife shouldn't have to die just to make you feel safe in an inherently risky job, especially when it isn't necessary. The officer had time to talk to him and get him to drop the knife. The officer had a backup safely on the other side of the car aimed and cocked if the guy made a truly dangerous move. If you don't trust your partner to make that shot, then you have no confidence in your profession and training.

The job of a police officer is to take risks to preserve life. If you don't like the risks attendant to the job, quit. We'll find someone else willing to take those risks.

you are example of fishermen and tree cutters who have more dangerous jobs and I do does not correlate.

Sure it does. Fishing is a profession. So is police work. Fishermen don't have unions. They don't get retirements. They take big risks in return for a paycheck to put food on the table. They take much bigger risks than you, for much less. Hence, it is entirely legitimate for me, as your employer (at least in terms of role), to ask you to take those risks to preserve life in return for that paycheck.

Believe me, I understand those risks. I lived for nearly a decade on the waterfront in downtown Oakland, CA. I knew hookers, street bums, fishermen, loser intellectuals, longshoremen, bureaucrats... Many of them had bad days and drug problems, but they didn't deserve to die for it just because some cop is unduly afraid to try to talk them down before taking their life. In my opinion as a citizen voting for people who make those hire and fire decisions, a person willing to kill before accepting those risks is unfit for the profession.

Unionized "officer safety" work rules are what has brought us to the point that NYPD is making 400 no-knock raids a month, with TEN PERCENT to the wrong address. How many people should have to die defending their homes because of this mentality?

87 posted on 08/21/2014 10:29:39 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats: the Party of slavery to the immensely wealthy for over 200 years.)
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