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To: Ivan Mazepa
Historical records show us in the hindsight that there are no successful spontaneous grassroots movements and revolts. There are always hidden organizers,bankers bankrolling event, tight knit core of actors making things happen. And there are useful idiots.

Spontaneous movements of the masses do not happen. It has to do something with a human nature. Up to seven people who have never seen each other can agree about choosing one of them as a leader. When the eight person joins the group, group dynamics kicks in - there is a power struggle, one leader, one challenger for his place. Unless there is higher authority, everything falls apart, no matter what people think. Authority is provided from the top, not selected from the bottom. Wherever there is a large group of people working in concert, there is a hierarchical command structure present, visible or hidden.

Maidan mass was no different.

38 posted on 08/21/2014 9:47:55 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA

Wow, a conspiracy spouting, anti American Canadian.
Uncle Tommy is that you? Oh wait, that’s about 10% of Canadians I’ve met.


39 posted on 08/21/2014 10:20:09 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: DTA

Russia doesn’t need communist ideology to view US as its adversary. Russian military/political/security establishment views America, not Europe, not Muslims, and not China as the number one adversary. That is the doctrine, it’s not an exaggeration, the world view they have is pretty much from the Cold War.

I also don’t believe Ferguson is a Russian ploy, that was just an example that there doesn’t need to be a puppet master behind every single event. I’m hoping to see you stop using absolutes ( a la “spontaneous movements of the masses do not happen” ) because there are just so many examples that refute this. 1992 LA riots, Tiannamen Square protests, American Revolution for God’s sake - all happened WITHOUT external powers forcing them to happen. What follows from your statement is that America exists not because colonials wanted independence and a new system of governance, but because it’s all a French geopolitical ploy to weaken the British Empire. US even had a French general and military aid, didn’t they? :)) Of course, it’s a very cynical world view as it negates the American contribution which actually drove the entire thing.

Lastly, Maidan wasn’t spontaneous at all.
A - Maidan from 10 years ago was the template to follow. Been there, done that.
B - there were protests through the entire Yanukovich presidency, the Tax Revolt in 2012 (I think) and the Russian Language protests later.
C - what set the tone for this Maidan was the unprecedentrd event in Vradiyivka, where locals stormed a police station after a cop raped and almost killed a girl. It was just the latest and most violent example of the degeneration that was Yanukovich presidency. This storming of the police station was as far removed from geopolitics, the US State Department, CIA, Soros and Illuminati as you can get.


45 posted on 08/23/2014 1:38:51 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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